engine news
Aside from weight and easy casting for aluminum, what makes cast iron so last century? Its quieter, its stronger, its more dimensionally stable, it wears better, and so on and so forth. The all alumium 5.0 cammer has a shipping weight 67 pounds heavier than the 602 pound shipping weight of a cast iron 351.
Cammer net wight is 535 lbs.
Where the differences are:
1. The mod motor has a deep skirt cross bolted block & main caps.
2. The Cammer has huge 4V heads, 4 cams instead of 1 cam, twice as many valves, big timing chains etc.
Mad a strong deep skirted / cross bolted block and a it will add 50 lbs to a 351.
The weight of a 351 Cleveland is 550 lbs, 351 Windsor 510 lbs.
Cammer net wight is 535 lbs.
Where the differences are:
1. The mod motor has a deep skirt cross bolted block & main caps.
2. The Cammer has huge 4V heads, 4 cams instead of 1 cam, twice as many valves, big timing chains etc.
Mad a strong deep skirted / cross bolted block and a it will add 50 lbs to a 351.
Cammer net wight is 535 lbs.
Where the differences are:
1. The mod motor has a deep skirt cross bolted block & main caps.
2. The Cammer has huge 4V heads, 4 cams instead of 1 cam, twice as many valves, big timing chains etc.
Mad a strong deep skirted / cross bolted block and a it will add 50 lbs to a 351.
I was just stating what fourcam had mentioned in that thread.
This way people don't have to jump back and forth

Good that info is slowly getting out on those engines.
Update from Fourcam:
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...352984&page=10
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...352984&page=10
I just don't get it, 2011 is 4 years away, and they've been working on this engine for how many yers already? 3? 4? 5 years? How can it take Ford nearly a decade to design an engine? This isn't the first engine they've ever designed before!!
Ford has the slowest product development cycles in the entire autromotive industry, I think Lada could have done it quicker...

Tht's 2 model years the Mustang will have to do battle against the Camaro and Challenger with their big 6+ Liter engines with the little 300 horse 4.6..
Pathetic..
Ford has the slowest product development cycles in the entire autromotive industry, I think Lada could have done it quicker...


Tht's 2 model years the Mustang will have to do battle against the Camaro and Challenger with their big 6+ Liter engines with the little 300 horse 4.6..

Pathetic..
Hopefully the 5.4L will make it into the SE so the 4.6L won't had to face the big bad Chevy's and Mopars alone.
I just don't get it, 2011 is 4 years away, and they've been working on this engine for how many yers already? 3? 4? 5 years? How can it take Ford nearly a decade to design an engine? This isn't the first engine they've ever designed before!!
Ford has the slowest product development cycles in the entire autromotive industry, I think Lada could have done it quicker...

Tht's 2 model years the Mustang will have to do battle against the Camaro and Challenger with their big 6+ Liter engines with the little 300 horse 4.6..
Pathetic..
Ford has the slowest product development cycles in the entire autromotive industry, I think Lada could have done it quicker...


Tht's 2 model years the Mustang will have to do battle against the Camaro and Challenger with their big 6+ Liter engines with the little 300 horse 4.6..

Pathetic..
The Boss V8 appears to have suffered from the same problem. The Hurricane seemed to be a year from production and was canciled by the bean counters. It took a major upheaval in Ford to bring it back.
But like you I don't understand how it can take so long since the thing was 90% complete 3 years ago. It seems to me the Hemi got done in 3 years, so how is it possible for Ford to take a decade to come up with a new engine?
The only good news in all this was a few months ago Mulally got Ford's bylaws changed to remove the bean counters veto power on any and all development projects.
In reality, their delays so close to production cycles-- only to get back on- costs Ford more freakin' money than just producing it in the first place. Sounds like Mulally figured that out....oh, yeah.....and the fact that Ford has to compete if they want to survive.
Unleash the beast already!
Rumor now is Ford got stupid again and dropped the Boss name. Now it has no name, Ford's marketing wizards at work again..


"Premium V8" is the new, ***** sounding name...
So now there won't be any Boss vs. Hemi comparisons in a few years..
Sometimes I really hate this company and what the morons running it have done to the Ford name..



"Premium V8" is the new, ***** sounding name...
So now there won't be any Boss vs. Hemi comparisons in a few years..
Sometimes I really hate this company and what the morons running it have done to the Ford name..
And how will anybody know it's anything other than the old mod? What will we call it?
It costs nothing more to give it a name, it's like Ford doesn't want to even try, a good name gets good press for an all new engine, all this will do is make sure it recieves little attention..
It costs nothing more to give it a name, it's like Ford doesn't want to even try, a good name gets good press for an all new engine, all this will do is make sure it recieves little attention..
Do you think Chrysler/Dodge would sell anywhere NEAR as many Hemi's as they do now if they called it "The Hummingbird"?? No, they sell the Hemi's because they are a HEMI and that name has some serious heritage, just like the BOSS!! Heck, most of the people who order the Hemi have no idea what in the world it is or why it is good. They just know it is a Hemi and that is good, so they want it. %^&* Ford!!



