EDMUNDS- Mustang V6 vs Camaro V6
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EDMUNDS- Mustang V6 vs Camaro V6
I hope I'm not posting something everyone's discussed already but the article's dated today, so enjoy.
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...ustang-v6.html
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...ustang-v6.html
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Nice quick write up. Here's the gist:
Originally Posted by InsideLine
Camaro LT
0 - 30 (sec): 2.5
0 - 45 (sec): 4.1
0 - 60 (sec): 6.1
0 - 75 (sec): 9.0
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.3 @ 98.0
0 - 60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.7
30 - 0 (ft): 28
60 - 0 (ft): 111.78
Braking Rating: Good
Slalom (mph): 68.2
Skid Pad Lateral Acceleration (g): 0.86
Acceleration Comments: There's good speed here, but the V6 doesn't do anything to satisfy from a sound or feel perspective. Shifts are met with an unpleasant wind-up in the powertrain. Shifter is high in effort and somewhat notchy, but finds gears without a fight.
Braking Comments: Very good stopping distance, but pedal feel is lacking. Hard to determine if ABS is active with a pedal this soft. Not confidence-inspiring at the limit.
Handling Comments: Largely the same less-than-inspiring feel of the V8 Camaro. Front tires wash out with little feel or feedback on the skid pad, and despite decent numbers, the V6 Camaro isn't terribly satisfying in these tests either. Again, it feels as if this chassis is constantly trying to manage a huge wheel and tire combo. Nothing here is truly bad, but it's also not truly rewarding.
Mustang V6
Test Results:
0 - 30 (sec): 2.2
0 - 45 (sec): 3.8
0 - 60 (sec): 5.6
0 - 75 (sec): 8.1
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.9 @ 101.2
0 - 60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.3
30 - 0 (ft): 26
60 - 0 (ft): 103
Braking Rating: Excellent
Slalom (mph): 68.6
Skid Pad Lateral Acceleration (g): 0.91
Acceleration Coments: Holy crap, this is a hard-running V6, more than enough power to overwhelm its tires leaving the line. Managing wheelspin is key in this car to get good acceleration times. Also gets good rubber on the 2-3 shift. Tranny doesn't like to rush that shift, however. We missed 3rd gear several times. Otherwise, though, this is a powerful, free-revving, nice-sounding V6.
Braking Comments: 103 feet? From a Mustang? Wow. Pedal feel isn't anything special, but there's no sign of fade and the short distance is outstanding.
Handling Comments: Truly impressive manners from a live-axle car. Balance is good as is typical with recent Mustangs, but there's more than that. There's a true sense of what's happening at the wheels with this Mustang, which provides ample driver confidence. And it's better than the independently sprung Camaro in both tests. Ford is doing something right.
0 - 30 (sec): 2.5
0 - 45 (sec): 4.1
0 - 60 (sec): 6.1
0 - 75 (sec): 9.0
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.3 @ 98.0
0 - 60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.7
30 - 0 (ft): 28
60 - 0 (ft): 111.78
Braking Rating: Good
Slalom (mph): 68.2
Skid Pad Lateral Acceleration (g): 0.86
Acceleration Comments: There's good speed here, but the V6 doesn't do anything to satisfy from a sound or feel perspective. Shifts are met with an unpleasant wind-up in the powertrain. Shifter is high in effort and somewhat notchy, but finds gears without a fight.
Braking Comments: Very good stopping distance, but pedal feel is lacking. Hard to determine if ABS is active with a pedal this soft. Not confidence-inspiring at the limit.
Handling Comments: Largely the same less-than-inspiring feel of the V8 Camaro. Front tires wash out with little feel or feedback on the skid pad, and despite decent numbers, the V6 Camaro isn't terribly satisfying in these tests either. Again, it feels as if this chassis is constantly trying to manage a huge wheel and tire combo. Nothing here is truly bad, but it's also not truly rewarding.
Mustang V6
Test Results:
0 - 30 (sec): 2.2
0 - 45 (sec): 3.8
0 - 60 (sec): 5.6
0 - 75 (sec): 8.1
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.9 @ 101.2
0 - 60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 5.3
30 - 0 (ft): 26
60 - 0 (ft): 103
Braking Rating: Excellent
Slalom (mph): 68.6
Skid Pad Lateral Acceleration (g): 0.91
Acceleration Coments: Holy crap, this is a hard-running V6, more than enough power to overwhelm its tires leaving the line. Managing wheelspin is key in this car to get good acceleration times. Also gets good rubber on the 2-3 shift. Tranny doesn't like to rush that shift, however. We missed 3rd gear several times. Otherwise, though, this is a powerful, free-revving, nice-sounding V6.
Braking Comments: 103 feet? From a Mustang? Wow. Pedal feel isn't anything special, but there's no sign of fade and the short distance is outstanding.
Handling Comments: Truly impressive manners from a live-axle car. Balance is good as is typical with recent Mustangs, but there's more than that. There's a true sense of what's happening at the wheels with this Mustang, which provides ample driver confidence. And it's better than the independently sprung Camaro in both tests. Ford is doing something right.
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Oh noes! 
More F5 "Mustang conspiracy theory" fodder! Can't wait to see what they come up with this time around. Like maybe the GM V6 is "just a couple cam swaps away from a easy 50hp"? 
I keed! Nice numbers. Go Ford!
More F5 "Mustang conspiracy theory" fodder! Can't wait to see what they come up with this time around. Like maybe the GM V6 is "just a couple cam swaps away from a easy 50hp"? I keed! Nice numbers. Go Ford!
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. This is what everyone expected but its nice to see a side by side test. Of course some Mullet wearer had to say the Camaro's times are so much slower than last year. A quick search at Edmunds showed faster times for this test.
Last edited by 1trickpony; Apr 7, 2010 at 02:39 AM. Reason: Less Offensive for Camaro Owners
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Yeah the one they tested has the V6 Performance Package:
GT coupe suspension, 3.31 limited-slip differential (2.73 is std now), unique ESC tuning,
strut-tower brace, & P255/40R19 summer-only tires.
Edit: unfortunately it's a (late availability)
GT coupe suspension, 3.31 limited-slip differential (2.73 is std now), unique ESC tuning,
strut-tower brace, & P255/40R19 summer-only tires.
Edit: unfortunately it's a (late availability)
Last edited by cinque35; Apr 7, 2010 at 01:35 PM.
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It loks like GM answered back:
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/8213...upd/index.html
Its the same motor rated on premium. The 3.7L on premium will make 313 HP so there's no real improvement performance wise.
Based on this story from GM, you can still underrate an engine.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...display-90776/
By the way, Some of the folks at GMI thought the same engine will no changes but a new rating was going to improve the 2011 Camaro's performance.
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/8213...upd/index.html
Its the same motor rated on premium. The 3.7L on premium will make 313 HP
so there's no real improvement performance wise.Based on this story from GM, you can still underrate an engine.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...display-90776/
By the way, Some of the folks at GMI thought the same engine will no changes but a new rating was going to improve the 2011 Camaro's performance.
Last edited by 1trickpony; Apr 8, 2010 at 02:17 PM. Reason: Addition
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Same thing as with the Blaze Yellow color, why wait?
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All the parts that make up the V6 Track Pack are base GT parts except the wheels and they are the same wheels as the GT/CS except a different color so I don't understand either unless they are just holding back for some promotional reason. And if that's the case they shouldn't have let the details out to begin with.
Same thing as with the Blaze Yellow color, why wait?
Same thing as with the Blaze Yellow color, why wait?
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Dang, thats strong for a 6. Dont post this a GM inside news or you will be banned. good job Ford. I am almost speechless. Those are big numbers for a 6. This is not the Ford of old. This time they are serious. Alan Mulaly, I love you man. Good job.
good job Ford. I am almost speechless. Those are big numbers for a 6. This is not the Ford of old. This time they are serious. Alan Mulaly, I love you man. Good job.
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It loks like GM answered back:
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/8213...upd/index.html
Its the same motor rated on premium. The 3.7L on premium will make 313 HP so there's no real improvement performance wise.
Based on this story from GM, you can still underrate an engine.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...display-90776/
By the way, Some of the folks at GMI thought the same engine will no changes but a new rating was going to improve the 2011 Camaro's performance.
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/8213...upd/index.html
Its the same motor rated on premium. The 3.7L on premium will make 313 HP
so there's no real improvement performance wise.Based on this story from GM, you can still underrate an engine.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...display-90776/
By the way, Some of the folks at GMI thought the same engine will no changes but a new rating was going to improve the 2011 Camaro's performance.
The 5 liter is here and we are going to stomp your *** Scott. Get on that one time. LS what???
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Is that all they have? The stang will still put the porky Camaro on the trailer. Where is Scott Settlemeir now to mouth off? He was a big talker back when the Camaro first came out. Where are you at now loud mouth? The tables have turned and Ford is not a bail out company. They are doing it the hard way. Americans love that and hate your bail out company you work for. It sickens me I own stock in GM let alone the bailout.
The 5 liter is here and we are going to stomp your *** Scott. Get on that one time. LS what???
The 5 liter is here and we are going to stomp your *** Scott. Get on that one time. LS what???
