That is what concerns me about the redesign... That it will look like a characture of the 05... I certainly don't want the cartoon look. Thats what is wrong with the new Camaro... It looks like a cartoon of the classic 1969 model. I don't get that impression with the newer Mustang vs. the classic one... I just percieve it as a succession or evolution of the original design.


I don't like silly and awkward shapes and styling devices spoiling the Mustang. For example, like those strange beveled corners on the bumpers of the Focus, Escape and Expedition... Thats just a Ford designer's fad or fetish that will not stand the test of time (which someone is going to see it's ugly and fix it later anyway). The reason Mustang popularity has endured so long is because the classic originals are clean and fresh using simple uncluttered design.

What concerns me most is the Mustang II looking grille opening. I am not crazy about the way the newer Shelby grille opening bows upward in the front edge of the hood. I actually like the GT500 bumper cover conversions with the standard Mustang hoods where the front edge of the grille opening is straight across. Classic Mustangs and Shelbys have the top of the grille opening straight across without bowing upward. The 04 concept car got the front end right, yielding a low wide trapazoidal grille with canted headlamps and a relatively flat hood.

I think it is also odd that the turn lamps were moved inset of the headlamps. To me the design is crowded and fussy, just designed that way to look different, not better. As a result of the turn lamps being moved we will now have this awkward looking side marker lamp that looks like it was added to the only place they could find to stick it. The side markers certainly look better integrated into the wraparound turn signal lamp.

On the 2010, I do not like the angled rear bumper corners and the matching shape of the taillamps on the outer ends.

The 05-09 Mustang does not look like a characture of a classic Mustang. The 05-09 looks like it evolved and matured from the original classic design just like the Porsche 911 evolved from it's original design without changing the basic shape that makes it recognizable.

I don't mind the return of the hop-up rear shoulder and haunches and I certainly do not mind the cleaned up body side sculpture and wheel opening flares. I also welcome the bladed front fenders and the improved cosmetic interior pieces.

However I think nothing about the front and rear design of the 2010 is an improvement or an attractive evolution. Normally changes like this make me wish I waited for the newer model. In this case, I am glad I like what I have better and I feel like I will not be missing anything.

 

[quote=Topnotch;5609031]The V6 will have standard Ford issue lower foglights...see Fusion, Taurus, MKS...etc

Speaking of MKS, the front design will be similar on Mustang whereas the lower bumper will be black and taper off toward the front air intake.

I was bored so I did my best at photoshoping what you said in your post on the V6
P.S. I am an amature

 

I agree with you. To me, the standard 05-09 Mustang is the most accurate and classic looking of the line. The GT and Shelby hood lines look silly and out of place. The classic ones weren't so extreme, IMHO.
The redesign doesn't excite me at all, with the stupid looking lights that are also used on other fords.
If later on I can afford one, I'll look for a 05-09, but I'll wait till the official introduction of the 2010 to judge that.

 

[quote=Cocheese;5609187]The proposed lower air intake and bumper detailing is a mess. The lower intake grille is approaching the size of the upper grille. The stepped lower fascia looks choppy and does not flow. The whole thing is creating an undesirable six-sided trapazoid effect.

The 1968 Shelby and 04 Mustang concept got the grille shapes right.



Notice the top of the grille opening is lower than the top of the headlamps and is straight across. Also notice that the lower grille intake is proportioned to not compete with the upper.



The 04 Mustang Concept retains a low wide linear look with beuatifully proportioned grille and lower intake shapes. Even the slanted inboard headlamp shape is proportioned right.


The 2010 Mustang honestly looks like the person that designed the Navigator snuck into the Mustang design studio. Either that or someone had a hard-on for the Mustang II...




This would have been a more welcome divergence:



This could have been done and with the ability to do smoked lenses it would have been interesting for the ducts by the headlamps to become turn signal lamps...

 

stangrider98 said "if it looks like this..." Not that he was jumping to Dodge/Chevy right now. Sounded to me like he was going to wait to see the final version before a buying decision. So what's the big deal? No reason to rip on him for that. He's just tossing the gaunlet out to Ford. I agree. The little bits of styling released so far are, to me, quite disturbing. I have noted my displeasure with these bits in the past but I am waiting to see how the whole package comes together. Either way, I don't see me running out to buy a new 2010 anything right now. Quite comfortable and happy with my 06. Plus I doubt any big HP/performance benefits until 2011 or later.

 

[quote=watchdevil;5609314]Remember this is chaz's interpretation of the car, not the exact size and shape of everything.


[quote=watchdevil;5609314]I asked my friend again, they said they can't say much more, but did say that the design team is the same Chief Designer as 99 and 05 Doug Gafka, one guy that worked on the 2005, another who was on the Ford GT, and the manager is the same designer that did the Shelby GR-1 concept. Sounds like a good team to me. He said two of them are in that Mustang AV8-R video Brad posted.

 

Hey Topnotch, great Photoshop. Now don't be such a tease...........give us a full frontal not just a slight lift of the skirt!!

We wanna see the rest!

 

I couldn't agree more about the 2010 Camaro looking like a cartoon caricature of the classic 68-69 model. IMHO, only the greenhouse reminds me of the actual 69 models. Whereas the rest of the car looks more like a disfigured, and bloated platypus lol.

However on the other hand, I actually do like the 2008-09 Challenger. As Dodge did a great job in evolving the classic 70-74 design, much in the same way as Porsche did with it's 911, and of course similar to what Ford did with the current S-197 Mustang.

 

I dont need you to tell me that this is not the actual design of the mustang, i go to school for graphic design and can easily tell if a image has been photoshopped. im not stupid but maybe you are because I clearly stated "if it looks like this..." meaning that if the actual 2010 mustang looked like Chaz's rendition, i might consider getting a 09 or a challenger, because like many others on this forum I have not been too impressed with the few details that have been revealed. So how about the next time you decide to jump all over my case, why dont you read what i said more carefully.

and thanks mot250 for having my back.

 

[QUOTE=watchdevil;5609314]i honestly have to say that if Ford did nothing more than update the front end and hood to that of the concept then they would have the update just about perfect. Nothing major needs to be done, simply use the concept as it was shown above for the base model, and just as they are doing now for the GT, add fog lights/driving lights to the grill and there is the update. simple, slight update to keep the car fresh withoug going over the top with all the new googaa and doodads.
just my .02, but the front is pretty good as is and doesnt need much at all to keep it updated and in competition with, that is ahead of, the new challenger and camaro.

 

Actually, if you are going to argue that gnat-sum should read what you posted more carefully I suggest you put more thought into the wording of your posts. This isn't an English composition class at Yale, but your phrasing was all over the place to be kind and it isn't difficult to understand how gnat-sum came to the conclusion that he did. Insults certainly weren't warranted, although the fact that you felt them necessary already tells me everything I need to know about the value we can expect from your contributions.

 

I do realize that is Chaz's interpetation. However I have seen enough though the camouflage of the oh so many spy shots which details are clear as a bell and I do not like any of it. I feel more confident about the bodyside detailing with the addition of the hop-up shoulder and haunches, blading the tops of the front fenders and refining the side sculpture detail. It's the exceution of the front and rear end I have problems with and they seem to be using the same offensive beveled bumper corner look found on the Focus, Escape and Expedition. I am surprised the silly three bar chrome grille didn't sneek in there too.

About the designers, it does not matter to me who worked on what cars before. Sometimes designers go off in a different direction with some details and they really don't improve the look or move it forward into something sensational. Some changes look more like someone was just doodling over a picture of the original 05-09 model just to make it look different.

 

Concerning the new Camaro, there are some sweet details and proportions of the classic one that got lost in the creation of the new one.

I think Dodge did a good job translation the original design to a new one but something about the proportions bothers me as if they had to stretch it and skew it to make it fit the donor platform. The interior of the Dodge is a disaster. There is so much more they could have done to make it look special without making it look like one of thier minivans donated the dashboard...

 

Dodge did a really good job with the new Challenger. The only thing that would need improvement would be that big a$$ rear bumper, but everything else looks fine.
The new Camaro is somewhat Hot Wheels inspired IMO.
Let just wait and see what Ford will do with the Mustang.

 

Dude relax. If you know its not the actual design of the Mustang, then why make such a big deal about chaz's rendering? We all know its a Photoshopped image as chaz stated in the initial post. I have degrees in graphic design, industrial design, and transportation design ( i.e. car design- which is how I know some Ford designers. )

Chaz's attempt is very good, but its not going to capture the actual design of the car.

As a student in graphic design, you should know that you can't get the subtle shapes and lines in Photoshop painting w/ an airbrush. Its like designing a logo with a dull crayon instead of Illustrator. You should also know the care and time it takes to develop a graphic design, the subtle adjustments of colors, fonts, strokes, and lines, to get it just right. And I can tell you no fuzzy two dimensional interpretation of the camo equals the three-dimensional design by professional designers.

Its fun to speculate, yes, but to trash the 2010 completely based on these interpretations over and over is just not cool.

The reason alot of cars don't look great is because of the engineering and product planning teams refusing or being unable to build the beautiful shapes the designers create. All designers from Ferrari to Ford are educated in the same schools and transfer between cars and companies. The chief designer of the Focus was also the chief who finished the 2005 Mustang!!!! ( and was also the designer of Billy Gibbons CadZilla. ) How about that?

The car will look good, not have IRS and be based on the same platform. Expect more, and you will be disappointed. Oh and it wont need 21 inch wheels like the Challenger or Camaro to visually disguise how huge the body is. I do agree, Challenger looks better than Camaro.

Just relax, bro.

Thanks to jsaylor for having my back.

 

Blame Watchdevil. It got in my head.


Other than the blue oval, I don't hate it. (-ducks-) Don't hate me. I didn't say I like it either.

 

Considering the passion already expressed in some of the responses already........I think some will blow a gasket over that.

Gotta say, it's blimmin' 'orrible!

 

Oh thats great!

Certainly someone at Ford must have kicked that idea around just to have it stopped dead in it's tracks...

A few years ago I did the three bar grille on the 05 Mustang... As a matter of fact when the 3-bar grille first made it's apprearance on the Fusion and it was all the rage, I jokingly put the three bar grille on everything including the last generation Taurus and Ford GT....

Here it is:



I am surprised no aftermarket company tried to offer a grille like it and capitalize on the bling...

Of course I would not want it...

 

That tri-bar looks hilarious, I was wondering when someone was gona do that.

 

Ha! it looks so indecisive.