So I am a sucker AND stupid? Did you read Boomer's above warning?

If I lose my job I'll be fine seeing as I have $10k left to payoff. I'm pretty sure it will be awhile before my car is worth $10k.

Thanks for your concern though. =)

 

Hey, what's wrong with the Focus! By the way, that was another car that ford produced that required premium fuel. My '03 svt took 91 or better. I don't think anyone who wants a 400+hp() car will mind spending a couple of extra bucks per tank. Besides, it's gonna get over 20mpg in mixed driving, as that's what my supercharged 4.6 gets, and the coyote will be better. Also, paying over msrp doesn't make eci a fool anymore than thinking a mustang is an investment makes 94gt a genius. Did that come out right? Anyway, who cares what someone else is willing to pay... pay what you're willing to pay. But we do have to pay to play. I'm preparing to be beaten by the new car (preparing by buying the big boost kit)

 

smitty gets it.

A Mustang is a toy. Anyone who buys one is "wasting their money" based on the logic of a few people here.

 

I'll be getting mine on the X-Plan, just like the last two Mustangs i bought.

 

I will relieve you of your debt sir and buy your car for 15k! deal or no deal?

 

That's a good point. We must not say it aloud, though, lest our wives or husbands find out.

 

To each his own on this one...

When the 66 was bought new (by my uncle), it was a daily driver for 50k miles. Then it was retired to "toy" status when I got it. Same with the 81, same with the 84 t-top, same with the 25th anniversary, and will be same with the '11.

Still have the 66, and kick myself in the rear for selling the 25th...

 

Mine is a daily driver. I just think it's ok to pay what you're willing to pay and it doesn't infer any character defect as was stated in earlier posts. I value frugality and stewardship, but I also value doing something nice for myself today... even if it costs a little more than it might in the future. Should I conclude some moral or character defect because some decide to spend money on coke, cigarettes, doritos, mcdonalds, chocolate, hot pockets, etc.,ect.... all of which will be more costly in dollars and pain in the long run than any dealer mark up on a mustang.

A couple of years ago, a good friend of mine died of bladder cancer. He was 50 and went to his doctor thinking he had a hernia. Six months later, he was gone. Since then, I don't worry so much about doing something nice for myself or my family. I'm still putting away their college tuition first, so it's all good.

 

Hello, ADM?
-yes?

Meet A-Plan.
-uh oh.

 

Have to agree with some of what Eci says. Everyone situation is different. Some will wait for month's hell even a year to buy a car at 0% or to get that "deal" Some will go and buy it at a markup, at a set price they may not go beyond, but are willing to pay if it is in reason.

Who is the fool and who is the wiser ?

Nobody is either. You can wait. Meanwhile you are missing out on something you want. So maybe you do not really want it that bad. You can buy it now !!! and perhaps a day or week later its on sale and a lot cheaper ! Its the way things are. I you want to get something then its up to you when and how you go about it. Its just that simple in my eyes.

As for the rumors, well I have heard many as well. I just spoke to a Car builder at a show this past Saturday. he told me that Whipple had the new engine and was fitting their charger to it. He did not give me any numbers, but heh I saw the smile creep across his face like he was remembering something. Is he in the know ? I would say so. So there is another rumor.

I'll just wait and see for myself when it finally hits. That way nobody has to lose jobs or sources over it.

 

Yeah, I don't understand all this fighting for table scraps. We'll know when we know, I heartily appreciate the heads up from people in the know, but in the end, why not be pleasantly surprised by fun stuff than disappointed over plans that got changed last minute?

 

Exactly- to each their own. I personally refuse to pay ADM for a volume car; and because I qualify for A-Plan, I don't have to. Perhaps some dealers won't want to take my order because of that. Whatever, I'll find another dealer.

 

 

Power to weight ratio, my friends! And more important than any hp # is the results.

Ignore hp #'s for a moment and ask yourself how quick a new Mustang GT should be. Leave V6 and top-dog GT500 out of the equation and focus on the mainstream, working man's GT. Isn't a 1/4 mile in the mid to high 13's a good platform to start modding from? Let the special editions above the GT tackle the 11 & 12 second demographic and keep the GT very affordable & economical, while running 13's stock off the showroom floor. The aftermarket can cure any performance deficiencies.

That said, would I like a new GT to have 400+ hp and run 12's off the showroom floor? Heck yeah! But, not every GT buyer needs/wants that, nor should all GT buyers have to pay extra for that. That's what SE models and the aftermarket are for, IMO.

 

Oh, by the way, I don't think we have to worry about ADM's on the '11's, regardless of how great the new 5.0L is. Times are just very different now versus the release of the '07 GT500 in 2006 and the '05 Mustang GT in 2004. I work for a big Ford dealer. We did not have a penny of ADM's on the '05 Mustangs - not even the first ones to arrive - even though we had a waiting list 5-6 months deep. Some of our neighboring dealers got some small ADM's, we chose not to. We won't on the '11's either, and I suspect most dealers will be selling 11's somewhere between the invoice total and MSRP. A/D/X/Z plan? No problem! Most dealers love honoring those plans these days because we get a commission back from Ford for doing so which is better than losing money like we do on most every other new car sale.

If your local dealer tries to charge an ADM on an '11, just walk away as you'll find plenty of dealers at (or easily below) MSRP.

 

The anticipation and guessing is appealing in the same way that the lead up to a birthday or holiday is appealing for a child. We know there will be a present. We have good evidence that the size of the present is 5.0 liters. A sibling just opened their gift (V6), and that is so good it makes us believe ours may be better than we'd hoped. Now all we can do is stare at the box and imagine what is inside. The only thing more fun will be driving the new car.

 

Five Oh Brian: glad to hear there's an honest dealer around. I hate the thought of ADM and wish Ford and other OEMs would step in and stop it. I'm still looking for a 2011/2012 GT, so, with A-Plan, that's what I like to hear.

 

Ford can't stop it.

 

I bought my bullitt at Brian's dealership, Bowen Scarff Ford. Highly recommended place to do business if you're anywhere within a couple hundred miles. I live about 100 miles away with probably 20 Ford dealerships in between me and them. Fair pricing and great customer service. I won't be buying a Ford anywhere else in the future unless their business model changes. And no I don't get a kickback.

 

Not when clueless buyers agree to price gauging they can't. Problem is when you let the dealer screw you over which you clearly are he thinks he can do it to the next guy who probably is alot better at handling his money. It is simply an unexcusable practice period in which the buyer lacking backbone is largely a part of the problem. Bottom Line Ford is going to make as many GT's next year as people want. There is no limited supply or production. 2010 numbers are far below normal as it is so I don't think even the 2011 will bring in record numbers. Five O Brien hit the nail on the head, if the dealer refuses take your business elsewhere. If a dealer can't sell cars due to ridiculous markups that is not my problem. He can have a going out of business sale while I take my business elsewhere.