Borla issues, possibly switching to Corsas... Need input pls
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I heard great things about Kooks as well. I'm stoked about my new set.
Another Kooks lover? I need to hear a set in person. Quality was good, Steve? And yes, Dan at Hyper is awesome. Just got off the phone with him just now actually, with another question regarding something else.
The Borlas (all 4 sets) have to go back to Borla. They are paying for the shipping, etc... they need them back to do analysis plus the refund for me. Warranty and customer service is still great. I have nothing bad to say. The quality, however, is suspect.
Kyle... since you know me for almost 3 years now, you know I was one of the biggest shouters for Borla. I loved them. I was shocked at this happening. I figured it happened to Roush pieces... LOL![Firedevil](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/firedevil.gif)
I guess Karma is a ****. haha...
But yeah, so I barely put 4.5k miles on her, never in rain, never in dirt, etc.... then the welds break through? hmmmmm
thanks sir. Video will be up this weekend if install goes well. I'm phobic now with fit issues. Ugh.
Thx Shiaz... it's crazy man, crazy.
Kid you not, 4 exhausts. You saw the pic of my front door right? None of those 3 there, fit right. Can you believe it?
ugh.
Another Kooks lover? I need to hear a set in person. Quality was good, Steve? And yes, Dan at Hyper is awesome. Just got off the phone with him just now actually, with another question regarding something else.
The Borlas (all 4 sets) have to go back to Borla. They are paying for the shipping, etc... they need them back to do analysis plus the refund for me. Warranty and customer service is still great. I have nothing bad to say. The quality, however, is suspect.
Kyle... since you know me for almost 3 years now, you know I was one of the biggest shouters for Borla. I loved them. I was shocked at this happening. I figured it happened to Roush pieces... LOL
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I guess Karma is a ****. haha...
But yeah, so I barely put 4.5k miles on her, never in rain, never in dirt, etc.... then the welds break through? hmmmmm
thanks sir. Video will be up this weekend if install goes well. I'm phobic now with fit issues. Ugh.
Thx Shiaz... it's crazy man, crazy.
Kid you not, 4 exhausts. You saw the pic of my front door right? None of those 3 there, fit right. Can you believe it?
ugh.
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As much as they cost, they shouldn't have these kinds of problems. Burton drives his car when God decides to give us perfect days. It's not as though it's a daily driver and might have gotten something on the underside that accelerated corrosion; he's right, what he took a picture of shouldn't have been there at all. That's workmanship.
Edit: Burton, I was going to post the before/after so it could help you make a decision one way or the other, but since you've already made that decision, I'll probably just post it in its own thread for the '10-'14 board. With it being a GT500 exhaust, I don't know how much it would have helped anyway. Regardless, good luck with the fitment on the Corsas.
Edit: Burton, I was going to post the before/after so it could help you make a decision one way or the other, but since you've already made that decision, I'll probably just post it in its own thread for the '10-'14 board. With it being a GT500 exhaust, I don't know how much it would have helped anyway. Regardless, good luck with the fitment on the Corsas.
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As much as they cost, they shouldn't have these kinds of problems. Burton drives his car when God decides to give us perfect days. It's not as though it's a daily driver and might have gotten something on the underside that accelerated corrosion; he's right, what he took a picture of shouldn't have been there at all. That's workmanship. Edit: Burton, I was going to post the before/after so it could help you make a decision one way or the other, but since you've already made that decision, I'll probably just post it in its own thread for the '10-'14 board. With it being a GT500 exhaust, I don't know how much it would have helped anyway. Regardless, good luck with the fitment on the Corsas.
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It doesn't help that I'm a perfectionist and life as well… And my OCD comes out. I hold myself to the highest standards, as I expect to give my customers the very best that they deserve in my line of business. So I expect the same of people providing me service. Apparently, that is where things don't lineup.
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Have you received your set yet? If so, how's it look? I can't wait to see the craftsmanship and weld quality in person.
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I was meaning to call them about it soon... Also just wanted to talk to their tech line and get a feel for their products and services. I might do that tomorrow.
Have you received your set yet? If so, how's it look? I can't wait to see the craftsmanship and weld quality in person.
Have you received your set yet? If so, how's it look? I can't wait to see the craftsmanship and weld quality in person.
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I was debating the black tips...but ultimately went with the SS tips. The black tips were beautiful.
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I just got notification from jay at hyper that my corsas shipped last night and will arrive Thursday!!!
And to think I just ordered it last night at 6pm...
Big shout out to jay and dan at hypermotive. You guys epitomize excellent customer service. Thanks a lot guys. You rock.
And to think I just ordered it last night at 6pm...
Big shout out to jay and dan at hypermotive. You guys epitomize excellent customer service. Thanks a lot guys. You rock.
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Thanks Sean. That's why I decided to switch to them. I'm looking forward to the new system. You'll see and hear about it on 4/12
Did you see the texts I sent you? Isn't that wild? Here's another... All my borlas in the last week or so, plus the one on my car. All had issues... Sigh....
Lol... Thanks sir, but I wish that was the issue/reason for all this. Here's a pic of what all started this a week or so ago. Check out this crack! That's quality of weld and SS quality, IMO.
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Did you see the texts I sent you? Isn't that wild? Here's another... All my borlas in the last week or so, plus the one on my car. All had issues... Sigh....
Lol... Thanks sir, but I wish that was the issue/reason for all this. Here's a pic of what all started this a week or so ago. Check out this crack! That's quality of weld and SS quality, IMO.
John
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I started with Corsa Extremes and went to the S-Type. I'll warn you right now that you'll probably want the X-pipe, otherwise the Corsa's tend to be raspy. I have a video of my car with Corsas and their X pipe next to a car with the S-Types on them. I'll post it tonight.
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Roh Roh…The crack is next to the weld in the heat affected zone and not through the weld. I’m guessing the break is located on the bottom of the tube on the entry into the muffler. If all this is true, the failure is likely stress corrosion cracking. Some grades of austenitic stainless steel (302, 304, 316, 316L for example) are very susceptible to SCC. Residual or load induced stress across the heat affected zone in the presence of, in this case, chlorides and sulfurs in the moist, heated exhaust gasses attack precipitates produced during the welding process and form cracks. If the welds would have been annealed it’s doubtful the cracks would have formed. They may have formed quicker in your application due to short trips and cold idling during winter run ups not allowing the exhaust system to completely warm up and dry out. No blame game…it is what it is. Not the right material or incomplete fabrication processing for the application coupled with a less than ideal mode of operation spelled disaster. 400 series SST is commonly used for aircraft exhaust systems and is much less susceptible to this failure mode…I wonder what Borla uses? John
In addition, I doubt they use aircraft grade SS. That wouldn't be doing that if that were the case. Hmmmmm if they claim to use it, that's bad.
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I started with Corsa Extremes and went to the S-Type. I'll warn you right now that you'll probably want the X-pipe, otherwise the Corsa's tend to be raspy. I have a video of my car with Corsas and their X pipe next to a car with the S-Types on them. I'll post it tonight.
However, not sure if you knew, but I had/have the full borla catback. Meaning x pipe and ota pipes. Which x pipe do you have? Shouldn't be an issue right? X is an x.