Not enough to write a check for a new car at least for me.

 

Nothing changing here for me....like what I got.

I do like the lack of the "bent look" but I do not like the lens choice Ford made....

 

There is one for sale nearby

 

Negative ghost rider

 

They brought back Sonic Blue for 2012 right?

 

They were going to, but then they cancelled Kona Blue from all other Ford products and kept Kona Blue on the Mustangs in limited quantities, thus not needing Sonic Blue.

 

I find my opinion on mustangs evolve as I get used to them. Hated the, "NEW EDGE" style when it first came out. Grew on me in about a year or so. I thought the 2005's were plain, I was really let down by the stock hood vs the prototype hood. I love the 2005s now. When I first got my 2011 I loved everything but the ****. Creeped me out. Now LOVE IT! I think the 2013 looks very different in person. Not really into it right now. I'm sure as I see it cruising around, I'll be a little envious of the changes and newness that those changes represent. C'est la vie!

 

Yes, exactly! I have felt the same way about just about every Mustang since 1987. Of course I never liked the 87-93 GT tail lights and I don't think very many people do. I can say that I'm warming up to the 2013s much faster than other Mustangs. I still hate the blank panel on the front of the GTs but that is an easy enough fix.

 

Ford can't make everyone happy! I love the look of my 2011 and the 13 ain't gonna be that dramatically different.

 

Good points above.
I think I'll grow to like the 2013s as well.

That said, the 2013 style is relying on the "more is more" school of car design. There's just a lot more going on everywhere on a body design that was already fairly involving to the eyes (lots of creases and bulges)... I may own a 2013 someday but I'll probably always think the 2010 style is better executed.

It's already bugging me that the revised motor has significantly lower internal friction somehow.

 

What's the manual tranny on the 13s? Still mt82?

 

Yes, except for the GT500 which will get the TR6060.

 

Maybe the reduced friction is from a switch to 0W-20 in lieu of 5W-20?

 

For me, I was thinking of trading my ten for a 13, but after seeing the GT's front end I think I will just hold onto mine for a while longer. The tail lights look good but I can always add those to mine later on.

 

Reason behind that is getrag mt-82 can't handle 480lb torque, it was made for 390lb torque becoz ford used BMW M3 4.0L as a benchmark which also uses mt-82

 

So.... WHICH m3 platform used the mt82????? I must be on a different planet.

 

I think he meant that the transmission was designed to that benchmark...not that it was ever used in a BMW.