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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 04:49 PM
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I hate the S500 body style so much that I want to order a 2017 Roush Stage 3 in either Grabber Blue or Lightning Blue.
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 06:12 PM
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If it could get under 4000lbs, then it would be awesome for both straight line and corner carving.. As in Challenger
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 06:15 PM
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I hate the S500 body style so much that I want to order a 2017 Roush Stage 3 in either Grabber Blue or Lightning Blue.
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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That's not what a Mustang is about.
I know what you mean, but "sophistication" is subjective. It's also relative. Mustangs, even now, are much less refined and more crude than the similar offerings from the luxury brands. There's no reason why Ford wouldn't attempt to offer the best car that they can make.
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 07:49 PM
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The key to the mustang is that the base GT is still pretty affordable. You can option it out of course, but for the base GT price you can get a coupe with the same drivetrain (excepting rear gears I guess) than the premium car that's more comparable in price to the euro coupes I guess.

For now at least you can get a V8 5.0 DOHC with a 6 speed row box and do with it what you want.

Mustang is about equal parts freedom and lineage. You can trace the lineage.

With most vehicles you have to get the higher end car, especially euro models, to get the performance drivetrain.

It's still a pony car.
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
The key to the mustang is that the base GT is still pretty affordable. You can option it out of course, but for the base GT price you can get a coupe with the same drivetrain (excepting rear gears I guess) than the premium car that's more comparable in price to the euro coupes I guess.

For now at least you can get a V8 5.0 DOHC with a 6 speed row box and do with it what you want.

Mustang is about equal parts freedom and lineage. You can trace the lineage.

With most vehicles you have to get the higher end car, especially euro models, to get the performance drivetrain.

It's still a pony car.
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 07:57 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
The key to the mustang is that the base GT is still pretty affordable. You can option it out of course, but for the base GT price you can get a coupe with the same drivetrain (excepting rear gears I guess) z I guess.

For now at least you can get a V8 5.0 DOHC with a 6 speed row box and do with it what you want.

Mustang is about equal parts freedom and lineage. You can trace the lineage.

With most vehicles you have to get the higher end car, especially euro models, to get the performance drivetrain.

It's still a pony car.
Also buying the mustang as a used vehicle (base or premium) is an evan better deal than the premium car thats offered in the euro coupes. Huge affordability.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 01:04 AM
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I love the 2018 look.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GrnT
Also buying the mustang as a used vehicle (base or premium) is an evan better deal than the premium car thats offered in the euro coupes. Huge affordability.
That's another thing. I would never buy a used German car. Ever. But a used Mustang? I'd consider used for sure.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
That's another thing. I would never buy a used German car. Ever. But a used Mustang? I'd consider used for sure.
Unless one of you bastards was the previous owner
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Unless one of you bastards was the previous owner
even if it had Cobra R wheel caps?
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 08:07 AM
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Anyone else like me still not liking the S550 design?-photo381.jpg

Nothing wrong with cobra R wheels caps...

On a real cobra R
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 08:20 AM
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That's a beautiful car.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 08:28 AM
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I agree. I owned an 11 GT500 & for me that was the last Mustang. Why cant Ford let the design evolve as with the Porsche 911? The S197 should have been evolved, not a clean sheet redesign.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 08:52 AM
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Here's some more of my perspective - I have always been a Mustang guy, and always will be. If Ford had offered the 2015 with a Glass Roof, I would've ordered one, even though I didn't love the styling. There's things about every generation that I don't love, but as a whole, the Mustang has always been the complete package for me. Good looks, good value, good performance, good quality. Not the best in anything, but certainly not the worst in anything either.

If it comes down to the govt requiring ALL new cars to be some kind of electric hybrid, would you guys not want the option to buy a Mustang Hybrid versus not having the option to buy a Mustang at all?
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
If it could get under 4000lbs, then it would be awesome for both straight line and corner carving.. As in Challenger
Yeah,........I still kinda want a Hellcat Challenger. They're stupid fast.

Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
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Nothing wrong with cobra R wheels caps...
On a real cobra R
That is disgustingly gorgeous!
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fjm1235
I agree. I owned an 11 GT500 & for me that was the last Mustang. Why cant Ford let the design evolve as with the Porsche 911? The S197 should have been evolved, not a clean sheet redesign.
Because that's never been how the Mustang has worked and the sales numbers didn't support it.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 03:23 PM
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Because that's never been how the Mustang has worked and the sales numbers didn't support it.
Yep, just because the S197 harkened back to the first gen body style, doesn't mean that the car had to stay stuck on *those* styling cues. The Mustang has evolved a lot over time. Truthfully, the S550 really reminded me of an evolution of the SN95. Being that a 2000 was my first, and 2003 was my second, I didn't hate the 2015 when it came out. I did think it looked too closely related to the Fusion, but look at the Falcon/Galaxie/Mustang of the 60s and tell me they didn't look related. Same with the Fox body era cars, and SN95 Mustang/Contour/Taurus.

Simply, I didn't order a 2015 when it came time to buy my first brand new favorite ordered car, because Ford decided to not engineer a Glass Roof for it Otherwise, I would own a 2015 and not a 2014.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
even if it had Cobra R wheel caps?


Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Attachment 182653

Nothing wrong with cobra R wheels caps...

On a real cobra R


Originally Posted by laserred38
Here's some more of my perspective - I have always been a Mustang guy, and always will be. If Ford had offered the 2015 with a Glass Roof, I would've ordered one, even though I didn't love the styling. There's things about every generation that I don't love, but as a whole, the Mustang has always been the complete package for me. Good looks, good value, good performance, good quality. Not the best in anything, but certainly not the worst in anything either.

If it comes down to the govt requiring ALL new cars to be some kind of electric hybrid, would you guys not want the option to buy a Mustang Hybrid versus not having the option to buy a Mustang at all?
Patrick ! Supposedly there's already rumors about an AWD option for 2020, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a Mustang Hybrid version as well..

Originally Posted by Stage_3
Yeah,........I still kinda want a Hellcat Challenger. They're stupid fast.


That is disgustingly gorgeous!
Don't get me wrong Tony, as I wouldn't mind having a Challenger Hellcat.. But I'd never get rid of my Mustang either lol.

Originally Posted by laserred38
Yep, just because the S197 harkened back to the first gen body style, doesn't mean that the car had to stay stuck on *those* styling cues. The Mustang has evolved a lot over time. Truthfully, the S550 really reminded me of an evolution of the SN95. Being that a 2000 was my first, and 2003 was my second, I didn't hate the 2015 when it came out. I did think it looked too closely related to the Fusion, but look at the Falcon/Galaxie/Mustang of the 60s and tell me they didn't look related. Same with the Fox body era cars, and SN95 Mustang/Contour/Taurus.

Simply, I didn't order a 2015 when it came time to buy my first brand new favorite ordered car, because Ford decided to not engineer a Glass Roof for it Otherwise, I would own a 2015 and not a 2014.
I totally agree, especially about the S550 being reminded as an evolution of the SN-95 cars, despite the close resemblance to the current Fusion's front fascia.. Although the S197 Mustang does indeed harken back to the 1st generation cars.. Despite having it's own platform on D2C, the S197 was also closely related to the 2002-2005 Ford Thunderbird, 2000-2006 Lincoln LS and 1999-2008 Jaguar S-type that were all on Ford's DEW-98 Lite platform..

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