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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ThrustangFiveO
Nope definitely not jealous. Im 28 as well and GE pays me around 80 to 100 grand a year depending on the demand for power generation. I will be dropping 25k as a downpayment. So i would have no problem affording this car or paying it off within a year. What im saying is no matter how much money i make i would NEVER order ANYTHING with out knowing exactly how much it is. Im extremely careful with my money and every dollar has to be accounted for. Im clearly a different breed i guess. The people that order this car now before the prices come out are no different than the kids that camp out at gamestop the night before the new call of duty gets released. Ill still get the car the day its released. NBD do whatever makes u happy.
So what would be your threshold in price that you would NOT order it? While I don't get your analogy because the money involved is much, much less, I think that admonishing people as "careless" is a wee bit judgmental. All of us are here because we have passion for this car. Otherwise, you wouldn't be compelled to tie up $25,000 in a depreciating asset.

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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ThrustangFiveO
U really think 2013 will increase only $500. I think we have to take into account all the new standard features here. New HID headlights with LED piping, track apps, painted lower panels. LED tails ect... If they can keep it to a $500 increase that would be amazed. We can only hope.
I will have to agree that there will be an increase in price. Here are some msrp's from previous years. The premium GT having the most drastid price bumps. Then again we have some minor revisions and some major revisions. I think the 2012-2013 revisions are mostly minimal, except for the dash, front and rear of the car.. So I will surely expect an increase based on history. Like Thrustang, I only hope it's minimal.

2009 Mustang MSRP:

2dr Coupe GT $27,210
2dr Coupe GT Premium $29,160


2010 Mustang MSRP:
2dr Coupe GT $28,395
2dr Coupe GT Premium $31,395

2012 Mustang MSRP:
2dr Coupe GT $$29,710
2dr Coupe GT Premium $33,710

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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso

So what would be your threshold in price that you would NOT order it?
Good question.

The fact is im a bang for your buck kinda guy. And we all kno theres no better bang for ur buck than the new mustang GT with its earth scorching 5.0. However if the price with must have options ( brembo race package, recaros, glass roof) reaches into the 40k teir id hate to say it but i might be more inclined to buy a used v8 M3 or C6 ZO6. So it just comes down to where i can get the most performance for that dollar amount.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sky Hye
I will have to agree. Here are some msrp's from previous years.

2009 Mustang MSRP:

2dr Coupe GT $27,210
2dr Coupe GT Premium $29,160


2010 Mustang MSRP:
2dr Coupe GT $28,395
2dr Coupe GT Premium $31,395

2012 Mustang MSRP:
2dr Coupe GT $$29,710
2dr Coupe GT Premium $33,710
2009 -> 2010 was a major body change, 2010 -> 2011 was an engine change, 2012 -> 2013 is a minor body change with new added options.

If I had to estimate a pricing difference, I would put it at $750-$1000 for the base prices on the non-premium and premium base price
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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I'll bet $10 the base GT stays under 30k; its a psychological barrier and Ford will want that coveted "Starts at $29,XXX" marketing line. How many people buy the base GT over the premium setup?
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by askjeffro
I'll bet $10 the base GT stays under 30k; its a psychological barrier and Ford will want that coveted "Starts at $29,XXX" marketing line. How many people buy the base GT over the premium setup?
If i were to get a GT id get premium. The shelby I will be getting it generally "base" except for recaros. unless the Performance Package is under 3k...

My 12 was premium and I loved the extra features and leather. I like to spoil myself
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ThrustangFiveO
Good question.

The fact is im a bang for your buck kinda guy. And we all kno theres no better bang for ur buck than the new mustang GT with its earth scorching 5.0. However if the price with must have options ( brembo race package, recaros, glass roof) reaches into the 40k teir id hate to say it but i might be more inclined to buy a used v8 M3 or C6 ZO6. So it just comes down to where i can get the most performance for that dollar amount.
I think Ford gave us what we asked for, along with the pricing to match. And I also think that $40,000 is a threshold where on a pure performance and feature basis, people might look elsewhere.

However, if you truly want "bang for buck", some would suggest a Nissan 370ZX (starts around $31000). So again, it goes to passion for the marque and the willingness to part with money for something that causes the "little tickle in the tummy".
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
something that causes the "little tickle in the tummy".
I think the mustang causes more than a little tickle hehe. And sometimes not just in the tummy... Have you seen those new rear ends????? one of the finest rears ive seen! hahaha
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso

I think Ford gave us what we asked for, along with the pricing to match. And I also think that $40,000 is a threshold where on a pure performance and feature basis, people might look elsewhere.

However, if you truly want "bang for buck", some would suggest a Nissan 370ZX (starts around $31000). So again, it goes to passion for the marque and the willingness to part with money for something that causes the "little tickle in the tummy".
Haha no doubt the mustang does give me the "little tickle in my tummy" but the 370z does not. That car has a myriad of overheating issues, its ugly, slower and less torquier that the 5.0. And its only a 2 seater ( the only 2 seater worth it imo is the C6 ZO6) It may handle better but the 5.0 can easily match or beat it with a couple of suspension mods.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ThrustangFiveO
Haha no doubt the mustang does give me the "little tickle in my tummy" but the 370z does not. That car has a myriad of overheating issues, its ugly, slower and less torquier that the 5.0. And its only a 2 seater ( the only 2 seater worth it imo is the C6 ZO6) It may handle better but the 5.0 can easily match or beat it with a couple of suspension mods.
Also you see old people and "ricers" driving those. I like the fact that the mustang is manlier and has some more respect. Plus its AMERICAN!
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
I think Ford gave us what we asked for, along with the pricing to match. And I also think that $40,000 is a threshold where on a pure performance and feature basis, people might look elsewhere.

However, if you truly want "bang for buck", some would suggest a Nissan 370ZX (starts around $31000). So again, it goes to passion for the marque and the willingness to part with money for something that causes the "little tickle in the tummy".
I've been reading along... but I came across this, and I HAD to jump in As you can see from my signature, I've "been there, done that".

If someone were looking for bang for buck, I would NOT suggest a Z. Great car, don't get me wrong... but you just don't know how "good" something can be, until you have something better. The Z was "ok". Aside from the lack of torque, engineering baubles include gear synchro issues, oil temp overheating and limp mode, tranny wonkiness/vibration, brake fade/failure issues, oil consumption, etc... I lived with some of these issues. And after much research and discussion, those faults were attributed to, that's "just the way it is". A poor excuse for a brand new car costing 30somethingK.

So when I got my 5.0, I was EXTREMELY pleased with how I don't have any of those issues, and most folks don't either. The Z is nice... has looks (albeit controversial), good handling, and decent performance. The 5.0 just blows it away.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ThrustangFiveO
Haha no doubt the mustang does give me the "little tickle in my tummy" but the 370z does not. That car has a myriad of overheating issues, its ugly, slower and less torquier that the 5.0. And its only a 2 seater ( the only 2 seater worth it imo is the C6 ZO6) It may handle better but the 5.0 can easily match or beat it with a couple of suspension mods.
HAHAHAHAH Darn it!!! YOU BEAT ME TO IT!!!

I agree to ALL you said.... trust me, I OWNED ONE. Steve did too (m4A1mustang) and Dan did too (secondhandloser).

EDIT: The oil overheating and oil consumption were the things that kept me up at night..... grrrrrrrrr

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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sky Hye

I think the mustang causes more than a little tickle hehe. And sometimes not just in the tummy... Have you seen those new rear ends????? one of the finest rears ive seen! hahaha
God i love that new a$$! But only from the lights up. I can't seem to get along with that horrible black plastic cladded plate surrounding. And im not fond of whats goin on in between the the tailpipes either. Although i believe if they deleted that plate cladding, the strip and reflectors in between the pipes would look fine. Just looks like to much is going on there.

Im trying to figure out whether i like the GT premium or GT Cali Spec rear better. The diffuser on the Cali looks pretty clean.

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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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I've been reading along... but I came across this, and I HAD to jump in As you can see from my signature, I've "been there, done that".

If someone were looking for bang for buck, I would NOT suggest a Z. Great car, don't get me wrong... but you just don't know how "good" something can be, until you have something better. The Z was "ok". Aside from the lack of torque, engineering baubles include gear synchro issues, oil temp overheating and limp mode, tranny wonkiness/vibration, brake fade/failure issues, oil consumption, etc... I lived with some of these issues. And after much research and discussion, those faults were attributed to, that's "just the way it is". A poor excuse for a brand new car costing 30somethingK.

So when I got my 5.0, I was EXTREMELY pleased with how I don't have any of those issues, and most folks don't either. The Z is nice... has looks (albeit controversial), good handling, and decent performance. The 5.0 just blows it away.
I was waiting for the Z owners to chip in As a former Z owner (1990 300ZX 2-seater), I look fondly on them still. As you note, there are issues there, as there are with the Mustangs.

The engine clearly will be in a different league. That's obviously what separates the cost and potentially what some people would be willing to adjust to when it comes to mechanical issues.

This all said, hopefully you will continue to "get tickled" in your Mustang.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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I was waiting for the Z owners to chip in As a former Z owner (1990 300ZX 2-seater), I look fondly on them still. As you note, there are issues there, as there are with the Mustangs.

The engine clearly will be in a different league. That's obviously what separates the cost and potentially what some people would be willing to adjust to when it comes to mechanical issues.

This all said, hopefully you will continue to "get tickled" in your Mustang.
Oh yes we're here... wait, till Steve and Dan chime in But yeah I owned a 2010 370Z. Great car... still fond of it... but don't miss it as much, since I owned my 5.0

And yes, "tickles" are a constant happening, whenever I look at, sit in, detail, and drive my 5.0. Moreso than any other car I've owned.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrustangFiveO
U really think 2013 will increase only $500. I think we have to take into account all the new standard features here. New HID headlights with LED piping, track apps, painted lower panels. LED tails ect... If they can keep it to a $500 increase that would be amazed. We can only hope.
When is the last time you saw a model go up thousands of dollars from one year to the next and said model didn't have any major upgrades/inhancements (drivetrain, body style changes, etc).....?

The outside shell is the same. The interior is the same, sans the gauges. The 4.2 LCD screen is out of the F150 parts bin, so there is no problems there. The hood and bumpers are different yes, but then the old molds are no longer needed for mass production. And the $500 is for the base price before options compared to a current priced 2012. Once I get the price list, I will post it and post the 2012 for comparison sake.

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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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When is the last time you saw a model go up thousands of dollars from one year to the next.....?

The interior is the same, sans the gauges. The 4.2 LCD screen is out of the F150 parts bin, so there is no problems there. The hood and bumpers are different yes, but then the old molds are no longer needed for mass production. And the $500 is for the base price before options compared to a current priced 2012. Once I get the price list, I will post it and post the 2012 for comparison sake.
He knows what he's talking about! And I know as soon as the pricelists are here, Jeff will have them up for us to stop speculating and start counting our pennies hehe.

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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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He knows what he's talking about!
Thanks Shant.


There was a model year only a few years ago, where the Mustang's base price on a base GT didn't change from the outgoing model to the start of the new model year. I don't see that happening, but I can't fathom a $1,000 price bump, I really don't. Ford would be better to add a small amount to each option package than the car itself. Plus they will be making good $$$ on the Recaro option, as LOTS of people will be taking that.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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He knows what he's talking about! And I know as soon as the pricelists are here, Jeff will have them up for us to stop speculating and start counting our pennies hehe.
As long as the price list is released in the early part of the day. After 8 pm EST, then Brian can grab it as he's on the west coast and 3 hours behind me.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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Also you see old people and "ricers" driving those. I like the fact that the mustang is manlier and has some more respect. Plus its AMERICAN!
agree 100000%
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