only buy philips or sylvania when buying HIDS!

 

thanks steevr. high beams would be a plus, as I'm sure Lokius would agree, but I'd take lows only and convert the fogs. Philips components and the 4300K looks good. I'll put it in my Outlook to check on that in a couple of months. Hopefully this will not be a $400+ conversion.

 

Hopefully those include High/low!!! Anxiously waiting.

 

I talked to Xenondepot a while back and they didn't think that a Bi-Xenon kit would be produced for H13.

 

I think an HID kit and converting the fogs to driving lights would work well. I've found I can't drive around with the fog lights on at night without getting flashed all the time or getting tailed by police for not dimming my 'high beams', so I hardly ever use them anyway. Might as well convert them to driving lights and use them as high beams, and have a 4100-4300K HID's in the low beams. That should be a good combo.

I've had a 4300K HID kit in my Mille for years, works great, 10 times brighter than stock, and I still have dual high beams. But even both of them put together are a flashlight compared to the one low beam HID.

 

Interesting thread. I just bought a HID conversion kit from ebay for USD 159,-. I´m not to enthusiastic about the fact that I´m gonna lose my highbeams but I also had the idea to use the fog-lamps as highbeams substitution. The thing is, in Switzerland I had to anyway convert the fog-lamps to additional highbeams as the width of the fog-lamps is not far enough apart from each other to comply Swiss laws (Marthafockers ). Well that makes it easier from my part with the conversion kit.
I think almost a 1000 bucks for xenons from Saleen is an afront!

 

well try driving with the ones your going to use, and the saleens, and you will see why they cost more. your going to have to get complete new housings to convert the fogs. i am also willing to bet the stock housings (heads and fogs) will melt or get burned over time from the hids. the saleen xenons are actually made by sylvania. a pair of oem hid headlights with housings usually cost more than a grand, so its not a bad deal. plus u can get them cheaper!

 

what i am worried about is what will happen when i switch to the GT500 front end, the Saleens are just not worth the money for me

 

Well I hope the housing is not going to melt... I´ll let you guys know first hand. Let´s see. Worse case scenario: I´ll have to buy a new housing or the Saleens *lol*.

 

Why would the housings melt? The HID lamps actually put out far LESS heat than the stock bulbs. (35w vs 55w). Its the high wattage fake xenon bulbs that have the melting problem.

 

Well don´t ask me. I didn´t come up with this. Someone of the chaps in one of the replies above mentioned it.

 

Time for my $0.02...

Saleen HIDs here.

Phillips (eBay) 6000k HIDs for foglights.

After 1.5 years of owning Saleen HIDs I'll admit to being disappointed by them. My reflectors burned (some QA issue, I didn't modify the lights) and when I took the car to Saleen's Irvine facility they gave me a bunch of moonshine about how they wanted to "investigate" but then ended up sending me packing by saying my $1200 HID lights were out of warranty and there was nothing they could do. Needless to say, that's the last $$ Saleen will EVER get from me.

The light pattern of the Saleen HIDs is much better than the crappy stock headlights which went sailing into a dumpster. Silverstars would not have made a difference. The mechanical "high beam" system functions well and is unobtrusive.

VERDICT: If I had to do it over again I'd probably have bought one of those H13 dual element/dual ballast kits available now on Ebay and laughed all the way to the bank. Get the 6000k, that's much nicer than the Saleen 4300k.

Foglights:

I tried Silverstars and was disappointed. I ended up getting the eBay 6000k HID setup.

The good: Dang they are bright and they sure light up the road. I have run them for a couple of months now on a daily basis and they start faster than the Saleen HIDs, achieve operating brightness faster as well, and there is absolutely NO burning of the notoriously cheep foglight housings or reflectors.

The bad: Dang they are bright! They completely overshadow the headlights and cause some pretty blasting glare to the car immediately in front of you. (although that isn't necessarily a bad thing, I notice people bailing out of the lane in front of me all the time!)

The ugly: Installation was a pain, I had to take the front bumper off and figure out where to bolt the ballasts to the car. I settled on mounting them into the headlight buckets next to the HIDs.

I would advise AGAINST the Saleen HIDs due to their shoddy service and refusal to stand behind an obviously defective product. Other than that, HID is the way to go!

 

Thanks, interesting to read.

 

well my saleens melted. i got them when they first came out, so they were way out of warranty. they sent me a brand new set, without even asking for a credit card deposit. they wanted the old ones back to investigate the problem. the new ones are fine so far. customer service was great, i had no problems. go back to saleen im sure they will give u new ones, they know about the problem.

 

I *did* go back to Saleen... as a matter of fact, I even went personally down to their Irvine facility. (by appointment, of course!)

I got a tour of the facility while they took my car away, a bunch of happy crappy about how their techs were "analyzing the problem" and then I got my car back with the burned lights still in place.

I asked, "WTF?" They said they would need two weeks to "investigate the problem with our supplier" and they would get back to me. Now they won't take my calls.

To say I am pi$$ed is an understatement. I wasted a vacation day from work to go there! A$$holes. I am THROUGH with Saleen and their miserable customer service.

 

try emailing and calling the saleen number again i guess. i got an email response the next day, and when i called and asked for support, i got someone on the phone right away. pm sent