Here's another one of my pet-peeves. They may be calling this a "Ford Shelby Cobra GT500" and it is based on the redesigned 2005 Mustang. Why are they compelled to remove 'Mustang' from the name. I personally believe that the fact that it is a Mustang is the most important part. If they remove the 'Mustang' from the official name, they are belittling that fact.

Also, Ford has to be paying Carrol Shelby in order for them to use his name in the marketing of this car. That 'licensing fee' is passed on to us in the form of a higher sticker price. That is in addition to the dealer markups -market adjustments- that will undoubtedly be even higher because of the name.

 

Well you all wanted the Shelby. So get ready for a MSRP of $48K+ before the dealers mark them up. As for me I'll be buying the other car.

 

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I'd be careful what I'm saying/admitting to if I were you.

 

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Shelby GT 500 - 450 horse ( really 500 ) and considered an SE vehicle

And the surprise.......

SVT Cobra - 500 horse ( really 550 ) and still Ford's top dog

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You're very close to the truth. Who have you been talking to?

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i don't buy that at all.

if there are two cars, i think it'll be the reverse. Just think of the names. SVT Cobra does not sound nearly as prestigeous as Shelby Cobra GT500.

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It just makes sense, if you stop and think about it. Shellby's up there in years and I'm sure Ford will outlast him. So if you own a business which has branded a very successful hi-po division SVT, are you going to throw it away for a fellow who may not be around in a few years? A shelby now, is not the same thing as a Shelby which may one day be produced by Ford after CS passes away. Which is worth more? The Shelby produced while he is alive, because he would have had some level of involvement with the car.

SVT / Cobra will remain the big dog, the fastest car / the most horsepower. But here is the kicker......it won't be the highest priced mustang.........that honor will belong to the GT 500........an SE built by SVT.......... because Carol is alive, and has had input into the car........it's more of a collectible than the SVT Cobra, but not nearlly the car.........

Pick your poison gentlemen......its all good!

 

Well you all wanted the Shelby. So get ready for a MSRP of $48K+ before the dealers mark them up. As for me I'll be buying the other car.
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I know you're trying to position yourself as some sort of "insider" with your giggles and grins and teases, but MY information is that there will be ONE TOP car: a Shelby GT500 built by SVT. Other special editions in the pipeline - yes - but a purely labelled SVT Cobra? Most definitely not.

 

We have been guessing if they will make one or two cars for close to 1-2 years now. I have yet to believe any "insider" info until someone posts something with substance that can be proven when the car debuts. Everything else is worthless ....

 

i seriously doubt this anaki fellow has any real inside info. If he did, he is asking for serious trouble by admitting any knowledge, b/c at that point either he or someone he knows is breaking an NDA, which ford would not be too happy about. Along those same lines, anybody close enough to Ford to be privy to this info simply knows better than to come out and blatantly allude to the fact that he has this info.

Sorry, but I don't buy it.

 

The only thing we know now for certain - since it's on Ford's Official Press Site - is that there will be a "Ford Shelby Cobra GT500," which I've suspected for some time.

An educated guess is that that is the car that will be unveiled this week.

Beyond that, I take all the supposed "insiders" on this board with a very big grain of salt.

 

In 1968 the "official" name of the Shelby Mustangs were.......Shelby Cobra GT350, Shelby Cobra GT500, and Shelby Cobra GT500KR. 1968 was the first year Shelby's pony-cars were tagged as Cobra's b.t.w.

Mustang was nowhere to be found in the names of either of the three models and nothing about that seems weird now. And who does not refer to these cars, or the other Shelby offerings that were not officially called Mustangs, as Shelby Mustangs?

 

I'm envisioning the Ford/SVT engineers/planners that are working on this sitting at their desks reading these posts and laghing their as-ses off at us.

 

You're right jsaylor. In fact, Shelby's lawyers still get upset when the cars are called Shelby Mustangs.

 

I don't buy it...there is not enough product differentiation between those two to even call them different. There has to be more than just Shelby's name and 50 hp to make me pay for the SVT Cobra...

Just my $0.02 worth...

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MT also reported a couple of issues back that the Shelby would have a "beefed-up"
live axle and the Ford GT's 550 hp motor.

Other sources are now stating 400+ hp and 450+ hp. Where is the 550 hp motor, MT?

Again, further justification that MT is yellow journalism.

 

I sincerely hope that whatever it puts out, and whatever its rated at, are decidedly different. A 550 hp (rated) mustang would lead to astronomical insurnace rates. High gas prices and high insurnace rates killed the muscle car last time around. History may repeat itself.

 

I sincerely hope that whatever it puts out, and whatever its rated at, are decidedly different. A 550 hp (rated) mustang would lead to astronomical insurnace rates. High gas prices and high insurnace rates killed the muscle car last time around. History may repeat itself.
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FWIW, it'll definitely have 500hp. Underrated, of course.

 

:w00t: i cant wait till the next cobra comes out... although i do hope that there is a Shelby cobra GT500 AND an SVT cobra.

i have a feeling that just because its a shelby it will cost a great deal more than a conventional Cobra (but i could be wrong and i hope i am), so if there is two, im leaning towards the SVT.

assuming i can save up enough cash by the time it comes out...

 

Well if there is two different cars....I think it will go like this:

Ford SVT Cobra...this is the Live Axle 450HP car that will be "reasonabitly" priced under 40 grand

The Shelby Cobra GT500 is the SE of an SE Mustang (LOL). It has IRS, a Ford GT type powerplant in it and some other goodies with it. Costs closer to 50K, but runs with Vipers and ZO6's

 

You may be on to something.

 

You may be on to something.
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Yeah, and on the other hand, he may just as easily not be.

 

Well you all wanted the Shelby. So get ready for a MSRP of $48K+ before the dealers mark them up. As for me I'll be buying the other car.
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There are not going to be two flagship Cobras - one Shelby, one SVT - period. End of discussion.