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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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A six-speed auto would be sweet. Just as fast if not faster and it shifts a lot smoother than I ever could.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by gnn60gt500@April 5, 2005, 9:08 AM
Im adding my opinion here.

1. I own an original 67 GT500 that is an automatic.
It came from the factory that way.

2. My Old Man would like to buy a NEW GT500. He had a bicycle accident about 10 years back (we used to ride) and broke his hip-

He can no longer drive stick shift cars-

I believe there are alot of older men who for one reason or another can not drive stick shift, who would love to own a GT500-

and if Ford really is reading this-

For the most part old guys have more money then young guys-

I dont see any autocatic MACHs left on the lot because dealers cant get rid of them-



Do I love banging gears?

Yes

Do I want to deny someone the right to own a GT500 just because they cant?

NO

Besides that automatics built right are faster then 6 speeds in the 1/4 mile anyways.

I say build 20% of them automatics.
You just hit it just right, if you guys go to any FFW dragraces Like I did last year the two fastest cars on track in stock class was two 4speeds auto. Mach1s beat the cobras with their mans. at the track.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by 05mach1@April 5, 2005, 10:38 AM
... Mach1s beat the cobras with their mans. at the track.
Stock Mach 1s vs. '03/'04 Cobras?
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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putting an automatic transmission into a car of this magnitude will be disrespectful!!!!!
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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One thing to remember that a 6 speed manual is faster than a manual transmission if shifted right. yes there are reasons that older guys can't drive manuals which is sad but you can not put this kind of power into an automatic. It will be extremely dangerous.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by 05mustanglove@April 5, 2005, 1:39 PM
One thing to remember that a 6 speed manual is faster than a manual transmission if shifted right. yes there are reasons that older guys can't drive manuals which is sad but you can not put this kind of power into an automatic. It will be extremely dangerous.
Oh oh..... you'd better get in touch with Aston Martin, Bentley, Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar, jeez even Ferrari, Maserati and every other manufacturer in Europe who make 400-500+ Hp auto's and tell them how they're endangering those stupid people who bought them. Even Chevrolet, Pontiac and now Dodge/Chrysler (with their new 6.1 Hemis) better be careful.

Sounds like a job for Ralph Nader - seize all the Hi Po autos and put manuals in them!

Let's do a bit of research before we post.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by 05mustanglove@April 5, 2005, 3:39 PM
One thing to remember that a 6 speed manual is faster than a manual transmission if shifted right. yes there are reasons that older guys can't drive manuals which is sad but you can not put this kind of power into an automatic. It will be extremely dangerous.

Get in touch with all Formula 1 teams, as they have been missing this important info of yours...they have been using semiauto trannys for the past 15 years or more when a regular manual is faster and safer...yeah right...
Oh and the older folks might actually take offense...they probably know better than the average teenager how to use a manual...and please note I am not an "older guy"... please show some respect here for the older crowd (I wonder what your parents or grandparents would think of this post of yours...), ok ? Thank you.
An automatic with a sports car is dangerous eh ? Oh sure...
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by 05mustanglove@April 5, 2005, 1:39 PM
One thing to remember that a 6 speed manual is faster than a manual transmission if shifted right. yes there are reasons that older guys can't drive manuals which is sad but you can not put this kind of power into an automatic. It will be extremely dangerous.
So hopefully you're getting the picture now and looking at the votes. Perhaps a Dodge forum of some sort would be a better place for you.

Buh bye
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by 05mustanglove@April 5, 2005, 1:35 PM
putting an automatic transmission into a car of this magnitude will be disrespectful!!!!!

So does that mean I am disrespectful because my "original" GT500 is an automatic?

Can you please explain this to me?


Here is a picture of my "disrespectful" car- maybe I better sell it and buy a more "respectful" car?
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Legion681+April 5, 2005, 5:40 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Legion681 @ April 5, 2005, 5:40 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-05mustanglove@April 5, 2005, 3:39 PM
One thing to remember that a 6 speed manual is faster than a manual transmission if shifted right. yes there are reasons that older guys can't drive manuals which is sad but you can not put this kind of power into an automatic. It will be extremely dangerous.

Get in touch with all Formula 1 teams, as they have been missing this important info of yours...they have been using semiauto trannys for the past 15 years or more when a regular manual is faster and safer...yeah right...
Oh and the older folks might actually take offense...they probably know better than the average teenager how to use a manual...and please note I am not an "older guy"... please show some respect here for the older crowd (I wonder what your parents or grandparents would think of this post of yours...), ok ? Thank you.
An automatic with a sports car is dangerous eh ? Oh sure...
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Do note, the "semi-automatics" in use in F1 are far more closely akin to the SMG type gear boxes than the are to the torque converter "manumatics" most commonly found on street cars.

These SMG type boxes have the ease of a regular automatic, if not quite the overall smoothness and refinement (that gaps closing fast though) with the efficiencies (power and economy) and driver control of a manual.

The SMG type gearboxes have lightning fast shifts, on the order of 150msec or less, and the DSGs have essentially instantaneous shifts with practically no interuption in the power flow.

The more common manumatics found on the street are merely regular automatics with added driver shift controls, but their shift speed and efficiencies are basically that of a regular automatic.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by rhumb+April 6, 2005, 12:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rhumb @ April 6, 2005, 12:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Legion681@April 5, 2005, 5:40 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-05mustanglove
@April 5, 2005, 3:39 PM
One thing to remember that a 6 speed manual is faster than a manual transmission if shifted right. yes there are reasons that older guys can't drive manuals which is sad but you can not put this kind of power into an automatic. It will be extremely dangerous.



Get in touch with all Formula 1 teams, as they have been missing this important info of yours...they have been using semiauto trannys for the past 15 years or more when a regular manual is faster and safer...yeah right...
Oh and the older folks might actually take offense...they probably know better than the average teenager how to use a manual...and please note I am not an "older guy"... please show some respect here for the older crowd (I wonder what your parents or grandparents would think of this post of yours...), ok ? Thank you.
An automatic with a sports car is dangerous eh ? Oh sure...
Do note, the "semi-automatics" in use in F1 are far more closely akin to the SMG type gear boxes than the are to the torque converter "manumatics" most commonly found on street cars.

These SMG type boxes have the ease of a regular automatic, if not quite the overall smoothness and refinement (that gaps closing fast though) with the efficiencies (power and economy) and driver control of a manual.

The SMG type gearboxes have lightning fast shifts, on the order of 150msec or less, and the DSGs have essentially instantaneous shifts with practically no interuption in the power flow.

The more common manumatics found on the street are merely regular automatics with added driver shift controls, but their shift speed and efficiencies are basically that of a regular automatic.
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Yes you are perfectly correct in your statement: everything you say is indeed true.

In my reply to that disrespectul post, I implied that I believe Ford would use something a bit better than a regular automatic for the Cobra (as the contrary wouldn't really make sense with such a wonderful car, wouldn't you think so ?), sorry if I didn't specify it in the first place. Also I believe whoever this "05mustanglove" guy is, doesn't know anything about modern transmissions, especially outside manuals and when he mentions "automatic" I frankly believe it stands, according to him, for "everything else other than a manual".
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by gnn60gt500+April 6, 2005, 12:10 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gnn60gt500 @ April 6, 2005, 12:10 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-05mustanglove@April 5, 2005, 1:35 PM
putting an automatic transmission into a car of this magnitude will be disrespectful!!!!!

So does that mean I am disrespectful because my "original" GT500 is an automatic?

Can you please explain this to me?


Here is a picture of my "disrespectful" car- maybe I better sell it and buy a more "respectful" car?
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Dude, I love your car, congrats !
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by gnn60gt500+April 6, 2005, 11:10 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gnn60gt500 @ April 6, 2005, 11:10 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-05mustanglove@April 5, 2005, 1:35 PM
putting an automatic transmission into a car of this magnitude will be disrespectful!!!!!


Here is a picture of my "disrespectful" car- maybe I better sell it and buy a more "respectful" car?
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Very nice.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 12:49 AM
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no offense to any posters but whats the prob with an auto if its just an option. honestly, i'd want a 6speed, but i see no harm if i joe blow wants an auto. there were auto shelbys and cobras (non SVT) before, and as long as we're hittin up the retro theme, why not?

dont hurt me...
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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Thanks guys-

So anyone see the latest issue of I think MM and FF

Fastest bolt on Cobra- its an automatic
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by gnn60gt500@April 7, 2005, 9:39 AM
Thanks guys-

So anyone see the latest issue of I think MM and FF

Fastest bolt on Cobra- its an automatic
Can you (anyone) post that article here?
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by gnn60gt500@April 7, 2005, 8:39 AM
Thanks guys-

So anyone see the latest issue of I think MM and FF

Fastest bolt on Cobra- its an automatic
What month May or June?
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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I think it is June....Ill have to check.....somebody here at work took it from my desk...I just remember it because it had Magnaflow exhaust on it- so everyone here wanted to see....might take me a while to track er down
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by Original Sin@March 31, 2005, 10:29 AM
The Auto Transmission string is getting full and some of the content has gone way off topic to include IRS. Ford needs to know that a few people out there, quite a few actually, would love to see the GT500 offered with an Auto Tranny option.

The soon-to-be introduced SVT Sport Trac Adrenalin will have a 390 hp Supercharged 4.6 in it with a newly designed 6-Sp. Auto. The GT500 should be offered with something similar. With Fords' - and it's Premier Auto Group affiliates (Volvo, Jag, Aston Martin, et al) parts bin to choose from - this shouldn't be a problem.

As for a straight-line 6-Sp. Auto or a 6-Sp. Auto with Manushift, keep in mind these would be a lot more viable for actual production versus an SMG-type paddle shift which would likely be very expensive.

So vote carefully, somone at Ford/SVT just might be watching. And 6 Sp. lovers - please keep an open mind. Your tranny's are a definate and us Autoshift guys are just looking for a little "optional" support.

Thanks.
Best way doing this, is write to Ford hey we like have 5or6speed auto for GT500.
for older buyers of GT500.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Here's my two cents (if that much) on this....People complained in the past of the weight the '03-'04 Cobras carried, now you want IRS and auto and/or SMG technology on this new Cobra? Throw in the IRS + Auto and this car would weigh close to 4000 lbs plus add even more $$$$ to this vehicle that's already rumored to be around $50k with dealer markups. Previous SVT Cobras NEVER had an auto option so my question is why add one now? I can see the argument about the IRS since previous models had them, but why on earth would Ford put an auto trans. in a car that never had an auto in it since it's conception in '93. Granted, the auto option would only bump the cost up a couple of grand, and would probably produce a few more buyers but how many more is the real question. Would the increase in buyers equal the cost of adding the auto trans. in this car? Unfortunately that question may never be answered. The SVT Cobra was always a great hp/cost vehicle. Start adding options and that ratio goes down. I guess Ford could offer an Auto option to buyers that order Cobras only. I'd also require a non-refundable down payment incase these owners back out of their orders and the dealership has a Cobra sitting on their lot costing them money. I say if you want to play...you've got to pay.
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