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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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The site i found says that the prochamber setup i found is specifically made for running with the MAC LT's... thats a pretty big investment then.. well over 400 dollars... or can you still run their system with out the LT's??
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by Mustang05@December 8, 2005, 7:37 PM
The site i found says that the prochamber setup i found is specifically made for running with the MAC LT's... thats a pretty big investment then.. well over 400 dollars... or can you still run their system with out the LT's??

I am running mine without the LT's!! Pulls hard, sounds good.. When you jump WOT on it, it sounds awsome.. Did you look at the pic of it installed on my car? There you can see I'm not using LT's.. I pln to move to them later, but it's better than the XPIPE for now..

A good muffler shop can fabricate it into the system..
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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The rear looks so good from the rear w/o any mufflers. Man if it sounds as good as it looks I think it's worth it.
So how about it, is the sound controllable to keep it down when it may be needed. Anything under 2k RPMs for example?
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by ManEHawke@December 8, 2005, 8:33 PM
The rear looks so good from the rear w/o any mufflers. Man if it sounds as good as it looks I think it's worth it.
So how about it, is the sound controllable to keep it down when it may be needed. Anything under 2k RPMs for example?
With the Series 40 Flowmasters it will still sound really good..

Now understand this point ManEHawke.. Please!

I have experience with the XPIPE in the following configurations..

1. XPIPE with Series 40's..
2. XPIPE with Magnaflow resonators
3. XPIPE Straight-Through

With the Prochamber, I have experience with the following..

1. ProChamber with Magnaflow resonators
2. ProChamber Straight-Through

Now, the XPIPE with the series 40's sounds really good.. Basically a very good V8 sound at lower rpms, but it leans out at higher rpm.. This means, that the higher the rpm, a slight rasp can be detected do to some exhaust not being scavenged..

With the XPIPE and MagnaFlows, since these are resonators, the same applies, allthough the high rpm rasp is quieted down by a smoothing of the sounds based on the location of the resonator, which is at the end of the line..

XPIPE Straight-through is basically a nice louder sound on the low-end, and a really raspy high end, in which the gig is up on a secret V8.. You can tell its a V6..

With the Prochamber and the resonators, the Prochamber emits a much lounder and deeper tone than the XPIPE, so with the resonators, the really caputure the increased frequency and muffle alot of sound.. Sounds good, but just too quiet..

With the Prochamber Straight through, you get a really deep lowend rpm, which maintains a deep tone at the higher RPM, followed by a distinctive V8 growl.. When you jump WOT on the Prochamber, (ALL) exhaust gases are scavenged no matter how fast they exit the exhaust chamber.. Unlike the XPIPE, where a percentage of scavenge is lost because some gases are moving to quickley to be heated up, in which to produce a deeper exhaust note.. Since the design of the Prochamber is to insure 100% scavenge ability, this means all the gases must be scavenged in order to escape the chamber.. This means a hotter gas as it exits the chamber.. The hotter the gas, the deeper the tone..

Basically, once the gases leave the header, they are dumped into a rectangular box.. Here they mix up and get hot.. The path for exit is not set.. All gases from both sides of the block can either go out of the left or right exhaust tube, as it exits the chamber.. This means that even at high rpm, 100% of every exhaust gas created by the engine will get scavenged, and since it is hotter, all exhaust notes are maintained as a deep tone, as opposed to rasping out, and a higher frequency..

The theory is not just theory, but fact.. It works.. I have tried very hard to get my car to rasp.. It wont.. I have dropped it into 2nd gear at 40mph getting on to the freeway, and punched it to WOT.. The car pulls hard, and each note I hear is deep..

Even though my attempts to bring this new revalation to you all has somewhat been overlooked and dis-respected, trust me when i say in time, it will be forgotten that I was the first to discover this.. Someone else will install one, and bring you his thoughts, and my work will be forgotten.. Its ok.. Atleast I know what you are all missing.. I hate the fact that you all cant experience this sound, but in time, it will be the single most important mod you can do to the 4.0.. Trust me.. The key you all need to remember, is that 100% of all gases will be scavenged..

The XPIPE, and the HPIPE cant claim this..
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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Part of this speculation is my fault, because I have failed to produce a quality sound clip.. I'll keep working on it..

I understand all it will take is a good sound clip to end this debate.. I understand this.. I apologize for the delay.. But my daughter spilled some coke on my sony laptop, which was my fault.. LOL!!
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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Sounds good, but my main concern was the quantity of sound in case you wanted to stay under the radar if needed. I am giddy of the quality of sound the Prochamber with no mufflers makes (kinda leaning to it as I trust your pursue in V6 exhaust quality) , but sometimes here in CA some cops lay that eye at you and if you shifted at under 2k would you be obvious or can the tone be keeped down with a light foot.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by ManEHawke@December 8, 2005, 9:11 PM
Sounds good, but my main concern was the quantity of sound in case you wanted to stay under the radar if needed. I am giddy of the quality of sound the Prochamber with no mufflers makes (kinda leaning to it as I trust your pursue in V6 exhaust quality) , but sometimes here in CA some cops lay that eye at you and if you shifted at under 2k would you be obvious or can the tone be keeped down with a light foot.
Yes you can keep the tone down.. A light foot helps out alot.. However, with the sound produced by the ProChamber, some Series 40's will sound real good.. I live in CA. as well.. No problems where I live with cops..

By all means, install mufflers on it, if need be.. It will still sound good.. Mufflers and Resonators emit different sounds.. When I first put it on I had the resonators on.. It was too quiet.. I went back to install the series 40's, but like the open sound before I heard the 40's..Run the prochamber to fit your lifestyle.. Atleast you know it will sound v8 to 6000rpm..
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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This thread is worthless without SOUNDCLIPS!! LOL Where the soundclips?
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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@MSP

Pics look sweet, and your description thus far pretty much has me sold on putting it in.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by rygenstormlocke@December 9, 2005, 3:49 PM
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Pics look sweet, and your description thus far pretty much has me sold on putting it in.
Wanna sell your Magnaflow exhaust?
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Jimp@December 9, 2005, 2:58 PM
Wanna sell your Magnaflow exhaust?

No! What I would be doing is taking out the Y pipes and putting this one in it's place. Thus, keeping the Magnaflow's! I love these things, and they are a straight through design so I am sure it has something to do the gains I am getitng.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by Jimp@December 9, 2005, 2:58 PM
Wanna sell your Magnaflow exhaust?

darn, I got mine at hopupracing.com for like $460 w/free shipping! I just went to get a link to them and they are up to $515...and they claim they are on sale. V6mustangstuff has them for $469. I found sites charging as much as $600 for this Y pipe kit. Is it me or did the price go up? I remember reading about people that got this kit for $430.

Hmmmm. If I ever decide to sell them, you will be the first to know.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by rygenstormlocke@December 10, 2005, 4:58 PM
darn, I got mine at hopupracing.com for like $460 w/free shipping! I just went to get a link to them and they are up to $515...and they claim they are on sale. V6mustangstuff has them for $469. I found sites charging as much as $600 for this Y pipe kit. Is it me or did the price go up? I remember reading about people that got this kit for $430.

Hmmmm. If I ever decide to sell them, you will be the first to know.
Ok, thanks. I like the Magnaflow system best out of anything I've heard. I've been kinda waiting for another full dual system to come out, hopefully by Magnaflow. I've heard that people have had problems with the JBA.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by rygenstormlocke@December 9, 2005, 11:49 AM
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Pics look sweet, and your description thus far pretty much has me sold on putting it in.
I am very sorry for not providing a good sound clip.. I know I'll be in the dog house for awhile until I can submit one.. LOL!!
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by MSP@December 11, 2005, 12:09 AM
I am very sorry for not providing a good sound clip.. I know I'll be in the dog house for awhile until I can submit one.. LOL!!

Rome wasn't built in a day, for this I can wait. After all, I do have two exhaust pipes sticking out the back of my car....I can wait...I have my sights on other things in the near term. LOL. Like catching up to Scrming!
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by rygenstormlocke@December 10, 2005, 9:13 PM
Rome wasn't built in a day, for this I can wait. After all, I do have two exhaust pipes sticking out the back of my car....I can wait...I have my sights on other things in the near term. LOL. Like catching up to Scrming!
Yes.. I am pretty much not into anymore mods for now.. Gonna start planning on which S/C system to get... I kinda like the Procharger.. Looking at his numbers of 280RWHP on a somewhat bad tune, as he refers to it, speaks volumes for the Prochargers effectivness..

I am so unsure right now on which one to get.. I like the SC350 as well, as well as the X-Charger.. We have so many options now, I am completely confused! LOL!
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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Ok guys, I need a host.. I have one clip which is worthy... I couldnt get one driving yet, but this one is ok enough to hear...

Whose gonna host so I can email the video?


This video is from about 20ft away.. I had to set my camera this far, or else it would distort the camera's mic.. Hurry up, I need a host! LOL!


I'll make more later.. I really want to make one which has me jumping on it while driving, but those are so hard to do alone... I'll think of something..
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Ok I emailed it to RaginStormlock!! Its a large file, so once he reads this, then downloads it, hopefully he'll post the link..


Ok, its fully uploaded for RaginStormLock.. He should be able to download the video now..
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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Its completely out of my hands now guys.. No more blaming me for a video... If someone else would like to host the file, I can email it upon your request...
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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MSP I use this site in the past and its free.

http://www.savefile.com/index.php?id=packages
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