Thanks MSP. How much did the shop quote you on install cost?

 

It will only cost me $50 bucks to put in.. Its still apart of the same system which they have built.. This way, the guy at the shop has tons of knowledge about the 05V6's.. It should be here soon..

 

Thanks! Hey, any chance you can get some pics of it after its installed?

 

Yes, I'll bring my camera, and shoot it while its still on the rack..

 

Thanks man!!!!

 

Attention Ladies and Gentleman!! The Infamous Mac Pro-Chamber has just landed at MSP international Raceway!!!

The tedious surgery to implant him into the 2005 4.0 V6, will start promptly!!

What awaits us behind door #2 is a mystery right now.. But hopefully if things go right on the operating table, we will soon find out.. Keep your fingers crossed.. The installation could get dicey.. But the shop I use has the best Exhaust Surgeons in the area... Stand by!!

 

Hey MSP be sure to get us some dyno numbers! Im happy with my sound now and really dont see myself putting out $300+ for exhaust at this point (excluding headers at this point) without some serious gains.

 

Got it put on, and the sound is somewhat being muffled by my 15" Magnaflow resonators.. I will get the series 40's put back on at a later time..

The car sounds better revving up.. But its really hard to tell.. As far as gains go, I got alittle more low-nd torque.. Just alittle, not much..

So, I would have to say for now, just stick the the XPIPE's and H-PIPEs.. I'm not sure at this point in total if its worth the investment or not.. I will say there is no need to rush on this particular setup if you already have an H or X pipe, because honestly I cant tell if there is a huge difference with the resonators on.. Its very similar to an XPIPE, accept for the higher level rpm's, where instead of smothing out, it rumbles alittle more..

So this is a hard one to determine in the short term.. In regards to a dyno, this change has not made enough impact for me to waste money on a dyno thus far.. Its just one of those things right now, that really cant be figured out without a tune.. Also, I need to make some adjustments with the mufflers, before I will know whether its worth it.. Just being honest.. Bottom line, no to rush into this one yet.. Its still undetermined..

 

MSP,

First off, thank you very much for your efforts here. It will be interesting to see how it pans out with the flows on, and how it will sound without the resonators.

At this point, it looks like an H pipe for me, but not till January so I can wait a bit. I was really hoping that MAC chamber you got would sound utterly kick hiney. But....it's not over yet and I think I will wait to see how it works out for you.

Thanks for leading the charge on this one and taking the hit on the cost, it definitely prooves your dedication the team.

 

I need to get the 40's put back in because I am pretty sure since the Flows have more back pressure than the glass packs that the sound will sound much different.. The Pro-Chamber actually installed much better than the XPIPE and really makes the dual exhaust setup look sweet from under the car.. LOL!! Not that important, but a very clean install none the less..

I would suggest you go with the HPIPE as well for now.. Although, I am willing ride it out, I cant make any promises thus far..

Now to also keep in mind, I decided not to remove the CATS from the system, which does have a great influence on overall sound.. What this means is, of course a more profound sound will be generated with high-flow cats, or with cats removed.. My feeling with the Prochamber is that the overall sound cant be achieved with the stock cats in the way.. Typically, most systems with the ProcChamber are CATless or are using a hiflow cat system... I will eventually, get it all lined up and sounding just the way I intend it to sound, but I like to do things 1 step at a time, as opposed to all together.. This way, when I speak from experience I will know the full scope of what to expect.. I am postive with the cats removed as what is normally the case, that things will sound different.. But this should be the case with them all.. Which means removing the CATS, and going highflow, or removing the cats completely obviously means a better sound will be generated... So in the short term, I would recommend the HPIPE, to error on the side of caution, as opposed to doing research ike I have been doing.. I did it for the knowledge in the hopes to a big gain in sound quality.. I just know I'm not done yet is all..

 

UPDATE!


The Pro-Chamber does work correctly on the SOHC 4.0.. The catch is you cant use any Mufflers or Resonators.. My car now sounds like a 5.0 with FlowMasters! LOL!!

I told you guys!! Noone wanted to believe me.. But I hung in there and stuck to my guns, and it has all paid off!! I am back to my old 5.0 days now..

The setup is basically just running stock cats and the Pro-Chamber!!


@MAC

Thank you guys very much!! You have an awsome product!!

@ALL

I'll make a sound file later.. My Sony Laptop took a dump a few months back, and now I only have my Dell laptop available.. I never tried to capture sound with it, so I'm not sure how it will turn out...

In regards to the sound quality of the setup, lets put it like this, it sounds no less than atleast 10x better than the XPIPE.. I have not heard an HPIPE on the 4.0 V6, so I wont claim that for now.. Although, I know noone can claim their V6 sounds like a 88 5.0 Mustang with FlowMasters!

 

Right on, though in my area I don't think I can get by with no muffs. But this is great news.

Thanks MSP!!! Can't wait for the sound clip.

 

I didnt try it with the FlowMasters yet, I just removed the Resonators, which were really taming the sound way too much.. There is no need for the mufflers really, based on the new sound.. It sounds really good throught the entire rpm range, and also when you let off the gas.. Yesterday, I will admit I was really confused, but could tell from the way the car revved up with the resonators, there was definatley something there that didnt exist before.. Without the mufflers, you can really tell the difference the ProcChamber makes..

At the higher RPM's you can understand the theory behind the prochamber.. This is basing it off of what I know it used to sound like with the xpipe, wthout mufflers or resonators.. Now, the tone is really deep throuhout the rpm range, and when you let off the gas it sounds really good... I'll be the first to admit, that I am even surprised at the sound..

Personally, I think you should all stick the the hpipes and xpipes.. It feels good knowing I'm the only one lucky enough to experience this..

Also, the Pro-Chamber does help the lowend torque alot better than the xpipe.. It's not a whole lot, but you can tell its better.. I am really impressed with the sound though.. Its exactly the sound I was hoping for.. Based on the sound now, it is highly likely the sound could possibly be improved with the introduction of the FlowMasters.. I didnt install them, because once the technician started the car, he jumped out and said leave it like this.. We were both on the same page after a couple of revs.. LOL!! Its pretty sweet man, I'm extremely happy with it now..

Thanks for your support RaginStormLock!! I'll try my hardest to get you a sound file later.. I may need Scrming to host it though..

 

Thank you! I can also host it if you wish, but Scrming has a mustang site already set up, so that may be more appropriate.

I'm going to have to reflect on this, I don't have resonators....so the MAC may sound sweet on my ride. I wonder how it would sound with straight thru design Magnaflows....hmmmm.

I will have to really think on this one.

 

No problem, you can host it.. It does not matter really.. Let me set my Dell up, and see how it goes..

The catch with the Prochamber, is it meshes all the gases together.. As opposed to the XPIPE, or HPIPE, they allow some gases to get by unmixed at higher rpm.. Right now, my car has absolutley no raspy sound.. Meaning that with the XPIPE, after you attain so much rpm, your sound tends to lean out alittle.. With the Prochamber, it does not lean out.. It keeps the bubble action going all the way to 6000rpm.. Then when you let off of the gas, there is absolutley no popping sound at all.. It sounds like a nice healthy small block V8..

I am confident that there is something to the Flowmasters going back on.. Understanding what they need to produce a good sound, I know they will sound good... It sounds good for now, so I will contemplate it.. I like for everything to settle in, step by step..

 

Alright, now show me performance :P

 

Man, this Dell Sucks.. I'll have to try it again, another time.. I made 3 clips, but they all came out screwed up... I gotta get my Sony fixed.. Sorry guys... I'll see what I can figure out..

 

Awesome man, can't wait for those clips. I am just dying here with those descriptions.
Now about the sound, is it still controllable, like a beast in a cage. I am all for quality&quantity, but being here in CA with sensitive cops sometimes fun needs to be in control. How does it sound under 2k with minimal throttle.

 

God I love living in the south sometimes.. there are so many trucks with straight pipes around here its nearly impossible to get a ticket for sound violation unless you have a huge system in. I practically rev my engine everytime I pass a cop and never have any trouble.

 

Here is a link to a JBA H pipe kit for those of you interested:

http://www.mustangforums.com/m_840813/tm.htm