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WMS Intake Wire Splicing Option

Old Aug 24, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Several people here including Doug has posted about this issue and for good reason. Some people are not going to want to cut the stock wiring harness to use this intake. An option that I am testing Thursday is using a 2nd factory Ford MAF sensor plug and extending those wires. Then by simply using splice connectors you should be able to splice into the stock wiring and not have to cut it leaving the original plug not used. The Ford MAF Plug retails for around $24 so it is a CHEAP alternative. I will post how this idea works Thursday.

The Ford part number for the connector are...

WPT795 Motorcraft Number
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3U2Z14S411FJAA Ford Parts Counter Part Number


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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Now that's thinking!
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Sorry if I am being thick here, but I don't understand: Do you mean to run the second harness back to some point, abandoning the original? The "unused" part confuses me. Are you saying you are going to make a pigtail with a new plug and simply splice that into the harness? If that's the intent, I'd still want to "weatherproof" the original plug with a cap or something.

I am hoping there is some sort of connector that the existing plug can be plugged into. Shannon at WMS wasn't certain if there is one for that. It appears to me that it would have to be a male connector to work with the existing plug.

The two electronics parts companies I spoke with said they would look into it, but I am very pleased that someone here is doing themselves as well! I did pass your info on the parts numbers on to them.

Good luck and please let us know how it goes...

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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by mikeelia@August 24, 2005, 7:02 PM
Sorry if I am being thick here, but I don't understand: Do you mean to run the second harness back to some point, abandoning the original? The "unused" part confuses me. Are you saying you are going to make a pigtail with a new plug and simply splice that into the harness? If that's the intent, I'd still want to "weatherproof" the original plug with a cap or something.

I am hoping there is some sort of connector that the existing plug can be plugged into. Shannon at WMS wasn't certain if there is one for that. It appears to me that it would have to be a male connector to work with the existing plug.

The two electronics parts companies I spoke with said they would look into it, but I am very pleased that someone here is doing themselves as well! I did pass your info on the parts numbers on to them.

Good luck and please let us know how it goes...

Mike Elia

I THINK what he means is: Ya know those little blue plastic thingy's that open up and have the little metal connector in them? I think he's thinking of using that (or something similar) to tap into the stock wiring, and have it attached to a new plug with longer wires.
The unused part is the plug that came with the car.
IDEALLY, we'd be able to have something w/ both male and female ends on it to just plug and extend... we'll see.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by 05GT-O.C.D.@August 24, 2005, 8:12 PM
I THINK what he means is: Ya know those little blue plastic thingy's that open up and have the little metal connector in them? I think he's thinking of using that (or something similar) to tap into the stock wiring, and have it attached to a new plug with longer wires.
The unused part is the plug that came with the car.
IDEALLY, we'd be able to have something w/ both male and female ends on it to just plug and extend... we'll see.

I know those little blue things you're referring to I thought they were called "crimpers" which, from what Shannon at WMS said, they use crimpers to lengthen the wire? So the kit from WMS already has them in it?

Could somebody that already received this kit please take a pic of the materials supplied by WMS for lengthening the wires to the MAF sensor? I was thinking of using those very same blue things if they weren't already part of the kit. But yes, a true plug-n-play connection would be best.

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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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REMEMBER THIS IS JUST A BRAINSTORMING SESSION.

Here is what WMS provides which is what I want to avoid.



Here is what I am planning on "splicing" with. Then run the other end of the splice to a 2nd MAF harness. I will try this Thursday. Then you could simply "crimp" on the splice terminals and not cut anything.




I will post pics Thursday of the finished product. And to answer the other question yes you might want to seal off the un-used MAF plug.

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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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BRENSPEED, I like your idea instead of cutting the original wire. But ideally I'm with 05GT-O.C.D. on this, we need a plug-n-play connector so we don't even splice into the wire. I'd rather not mess with the stock wire harness!

Brenspeed those connectors you pictured do they cut any of the copper inside a wire? Or just puncture the shielding?

I'm assuming the $24 part is meant to replace the stock part by soldering or cutting/crimping onto the main wire harness. (IE it comes with a plug at one end and bare wires on the other?)
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by BRENSPEED@August 24, 2005, 10:48 PM
REMEMBER THIS IS JUST A BRAINSTORMING SESSION.

Here is what WMS provides which is what I want to avoid.



Here is what I am planning on "splicing" with. Then run the other end of the splice to a 2nd MAF harness. I will try this Thursday. Then you could simply "crimp" on the splice terminals and not cut anything.


I will post pics Thursday of the finished product. And to answer the other question yes you might want to seal off the un-used MAF plug.



THAT IS WHAT WE DO BEST ON THIS SITE!

Thanks Brent,

Yep that's them. The blue tubes WMS supplies with the kit are meant for cut wires (cut wire, strip off about 3/8in of insulation, insert through blue tube, wind the exposed wire around the exposed wire of the extension piece (also stripped at end), slide blue shrink tube over raw wire, apply heat and it shrinks the tube in place forming protection). The blue crimps you want to use I've used in the past and have had great success with them. For any not familiar with them, see the raised piece of metal? Well you slide each wire into a slot through the side and then when the flap is snapped down in place it forces the metal piece to "splice" through the insulation of each wire WITHOUT cutting it in half and thus bridges the circuit. Much cleaner and easier to install/remove.. mistake proof!
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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This intake is sounding more and more difficult to install for somebody who is a novice to mods like myself...
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by mustangspeeder@August 24, 2005, 10:35 PM
This intake is sounding more and more difficult to install for somebody who is a novice to mods like myself...
Dude, it should be a piece of cake. When I get mine I'll take step by step pics, and detailed notes and post a thread on it. Don't let fear of a difficult install keep you from buying this. If you have any problems we'll walk you through it.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Sounds great John, thanks

Mike just send me the installation instructions too, so I'll have to send it out to my "resources" and see if it will be something that they think they can do as well.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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Yes, just got them, anyone hesitant or just interested in seeing the instructions for the intake PM me and I'll e/m them to you. It's in PDF format. Shannon was to have had them up on the site by this time but since they're not.. just let me know and I'll send them to you.

Oh, and the instructions I got from Shannon cover the intake install, he hasn't released a version covering the ram-air package yet.

EDIT: You will need Adobe Acrobat to read the PDF file. Here is a link to get a free download of it: ADOBE ACROBAT READER FREE DOWNLOAD
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by blackhat97@August 25, 2005, 8:35 AM
Yes, just got them, anyone hesitant or just interested in seeing the instructions for the intake PM me and I'll e/m them to you. It's in PDF format. Shannon was to have had them up on the site by this time but since they're not.. just let me know and I'll send them to you.

Oh, and the instructions I got from Shannon cover the intake install, he hasn't released a version covering the ram-air package yet.

EDIT: You will need Adobe Acrobat to read the PDF file. Here is a link to get a free download of it: ADOBE ACROBAT READER FREE DOWNLOAD
I would like to see them. You can emailthem to me at kirk_mahoney@hotmail.com. Thanks!
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by nbk13nw@August 25, 2005, 9:11 AM
I would like to see them. You can emailthem to me at kirk_mahoney@hotmail.com. Thanks!
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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Hey all,

Just looked over the instructions. It appears there's no drilling to the sheet metal, which is good.

But you have to do a lot of cutting (coolant lines, and the maf wire harness). I'm not sure how keen I am on doing this.

One thing it doesn't explain is this intake not supported in anyway ? it just hangs off the engine ?

I'm still liking the concept of this intake, and I'll await others opinions once they install it.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by Fastrack@August 25, 2005, 10:17 AM
Hey all,

Just looked over the instructions. It appears there's no drilling to the sheet metal, which is good.

But you have to do a lot of cutting (coolant lines, and the maf wire harness). I'm not sure how keen I am on doing this.

One thing it doesn't explain is this intake not supported in anyway ? it just hangs off the engine ?

I'm still liking the concept of this intake, and I'll await others opinions once they install it.

Redoing tubing isn't as bad as it sounds. Granted I have not done a lot of work in regard but what I have done was overall an easy, straight forward task. Shouldn't be too hard at all. And folks are working on an alternate solution to cutting the wires for the MAF so I think we'll be able to avoid cutting any wires too.

As far as support for the intake, I dunno. I'd imagine the filter end is fairly light and the attachment point fairly solid and secure so it wouldn't move. It also doesn't extend out far so it's center of gravity I think would also be at the attachment point.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by blackhat97@August 25, 2005, 10:50 AM
Redoing tubing isn't as bad as it sounds. Granted I have not done a lot of work in regard but what I have done was overall an easy, straight forward task. Shouldn't be too hard at all. And folks are working on an alternate solution to cutting the wires for the MAF so I think we'll be able to avoid cutting any wires too.

As far as support for the intake, I dunno. I'd imagine the filter end is fairly light and the attachment point fairly solid and secure so it wouldn't move. It also doesn't extend out far so it's center of gravity I think would also be at the attachment point.
Yea technicially I'm fine with doing the mods, it's just my new car, and I decided that any mod I did, I want to be able to put it back to stock.

The coolant line will have to be replaced in the future (it's a replaceable part), so if another solution comes up with the MAF harness I might still go for it.

Now for the ram air kit, hopefully it requires no drilling!
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by blackhat97@August 25, 2005, 7:35 AM
Yes, just got them, anyone hesitant or just interested in seeing the instructions for the intake PM me and I'll e/m them to you. It's in PDF format. Shannon was to have had them up on the site by this time but since they're not.. just let me know and I'll send them to you.

Oh, and the instructions I got from Shannon cover the intake install, he hasn't released a version covering the ram-air package yet.

EDIT: You will need Adobe Acrobat to read the PDF file. Here is a link to get a free download of it: ADOBE ACROBAT READER FREE DOWNLOAD
I would also like to see them. Can you please email them to me at exnhilo@hotmail.com. Thanks!


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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Ex Nihilo@August 25, 2005, 11:21 AM
I would also like to see them. Can you please email them to me at exnhilo@hotmail.com. Thanks!
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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No way would I start cutting splicing wires just to install a cold air system. They should supply an extension with the proper plugs.
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