Hurst billet shifter exists
2/10/08, 02:03 AM
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Not a dumb question. Since the new shifter has a different body than the stock shifter the factory sound deadening simply wont fit around the new shifter. Sometimes you can modify it to fit depending on the shifter. The love the MGW because it comes with its own sound deadening that fits perfect.
2/10/08, 08:26 AM
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If you're concerned about NVH, the original "comp" shifter is close to the factory design. I've had mine for 5 months and have no additional NVH.
If you're concerned about NVH, the original "comp" shifter is close to the factory design. I've had mine for 5 months and have no additional NVH.
2/10/08, 02:12 PM
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2/10/08, 02:28 PM
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Although I'm very interested in purchasing the original "comp" shifter. I'm also very concerned with missing gears, due to what others have complained about Hurst's (notchy) shifter design.
2/13/08, 07:58 AM
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That's because your car is basicly stock. Once you get up over 400 rwhp the drivetrain will twist more and interfere with shifts at high rpm's. This rarely happens on lower hp applications. MGW is the only company that has torsion mounts on the shifter's remote mounting beam which I am convinced is the reason it works so well. Go MGW, you won't regret it.
2/14/08, 07:20 PM
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I'm really caught in the middle, between the Hurst "comp" shifter, and the MGW.
Although MGW is the better overall designed shifter. I'm running N/A with just simple bolt-ons, and have no intentions of upgrading to forced induction.
I'm also not very knowledgeable, when it comes to adjusting the amount of short throw stops/turns.
I suppose this is one of the reasons, why I prefer the Hurst over the MGW. is because of it's simplicity, without all the angle/short throw adjustments required.
Plus I also really like the retro design/theme as well.
Even though I enjoy spirited driving, and like opening my Stang up once in awhile. I do not race my car at all, however I wouldn't mind taking it to the track, just to see how well it performs.
So my question is. Would the Hurst "comp" shifter, provide enough stability to prevent missed shifts. Or does the MGW, provide more thorough, and precise stability.
Anyway, thanks for all your feedback and support in advance.
Rocky
Although MGW is the better overall designed shifter. I'm running N/A with just simple bolt-ons, and have no intentions of upgrading to forced induction.
I'm also not very knowledgeable, when it comes to adjusting the amount of short throw stops/turns.
I suppose this is one of the reasons, why I prefer the Hurst over the MGW. is because of it's simplicity, without all the angle/short throw adjustments required.
Plus I also really like the retro design/theme as well.
Even though I enjoy spirited driving, and like opening my Stang up once in awhile. I do not race my car at all, however I wouldn't mind taking it to the track, just to see how well it performs.
So my question is. Would the Hurst "comp" shifter, provide enough stability to prevent missed shifts. Or does the MGW, provide more thorough, and precise stability.
Anyway, thanks for all your feedback and support in advance.
Rocky
2/15/08, 07:14 PM
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What I fail to understand is. What's the purpose behind the adjustable stops, being as the drivetrain already has internal stops built in.
I also agree with Anthony's post that mentioned. the solid remote beam is too rigid, and has no give. Meanwhile, if the shifter is mounted to both the transmission, and structural body. the drivetrain still ends up twisting under torque, even though the vehicle's chassis clearly does not.
Therefore. It would seem if a billet shifter is going to be used. It should also be paired with torque limiters, and K-member brace, in order to prevent the transmission from twisting as well. Otherwise why bother upgrading to a billet shifter to begin with. Just my $.02
I also agree with Anthony's post that mentioned. the solid remote beam is too rigid, and has no give. Meanwhile, if the shifter is mounted to both the transmission, and structural body. the drivetrain still ends up twisting under torque, even though the vehicle's chassis clearly does not.
Therefore. It would seem if a billet shifter is going to be used. It should also be paired with torque limiters, and K-member brace, in order to prevent the transmission from twisting as well. Otherwise why bother upgrading to a billet shifter to begin with. Just my $.02
2/15/08, 10:07 PM
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I was almost ready to pull the trigger on the Hurst. Until I spoke with Hurst's tech support dept. And then with George from MGW.
Needless to say, after comparing my phone conversations. The Hurst tech rep didn't seem very interested in answering my questions, nor was able to provide technical details about their product, other than it's design is similar to the stock unit, with the exception of being a short throw shifter.
However on the other hand, George from MGW was very informative, polite, and answered each of my technical questions, in a very professional, and precise manner. In fact. I could even tell how passionate he was about his product, when describing which materials each component is designed from, and how each part must be inspected/tested, before being shipped to the customer.
By the time it was all said and done. He must have spent like over 45 min. on the phone with me. And after asking him, if he recommended going with the adjustable stop kit. His response, was don't even waste my money, as it's really not necessary. Thanks to the internal stops built into the transmission. Now that's what I call trustworthiness and excellent customer support.
That being said. I don't mind paying an additional $100.00, when it concerns a superior quality product, along with great customer service to back it up.
As far as I'm concerned. The MGW is definitely worth every penny, and then some
Needless to say, after comparing my phone conversations. The Hurst tech rep didn't seem very interested in answering my questions, nor was able to provide technical details about their product, other than it's design is similar to the stock unit, with the exception of being a short throw shifter.
However on the other hand, George from MGW was very informative, polite, and answered each of my technical questions, in a very professional, and precise manner. In fact. I could even tell how passionate he was about his product, when describing which materials each component is designed from, and how each part must be inspected/tested, before being shipped to the customer.
By the time it was all said and done. He must have spent like over 45 min. on the phone with me. And after asking him, if he recommended going with the adjustable stop kit. His response, was don't even waste my money, as it's really not necessary. Thanks to the internal stops built into the transmission. Now that's what I call trustworthiness and excellent customer support.
That being said. I don't mind paying an additional $100.00, when it concerns a superior quality product, along with great customer service to back it up.
As far as I'm concerned. The MGW is definitely worth every penny, and then some
3/1/08, 03:16 PM
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Hey Chris,
Although I don't have the MGW just yet. I have no doubt that I'm going to enjoy those nice crispy short throws, and adjustability features. As I'm sure you will as well.
Rocky
Although I don't have the MGW just yet. I have no doubt that I'm going to enjoy those nice crispy short throws, and adjustability features. As I'm sure you will as well.
Rocky