FRPP Borla Stinger droning and resonators
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Wow, I can't believe some of the responses on here. Geez what one guy likes vs. the next has nothing to do with age.
Darth, I have FRPP/Stingers with everything else stock but in my case it is not bad (to me) however I wouldn't want to do anything that would make the drone louder. I have been searching high and low for an X or an H without increasing the drone and so far the one that seems to handle it the best (again in my case) is the FRPP X-pipe (same one used on the GT-H/Shelby GT). Plenty of forums posts on it including Boomer's.
I have gone back and forth between that, Magnaflow X with high flow cats and the O/R H from Pypes that Bill has (drool stream everytime after watching his vid). My friend has the Magnaflow but on his the Drone is louder. Bill told me also that if I don't want my drone louder then it is now, don't go with the O/R H, it's loud.
Darth, I have FRPP/Stingers with everything else stock but in my case it is not bad (to me) however I wouldn't want to do anything that would make the drone louder. I have been searching high and low for an X or an H without increasing the drone and so far the one that seems to handle it the best (again in my case) is the FRPP X-pipe (same one used on the GT-H/Shelby GT). Plenty of forums posts on it including Boomer's.
I have gone back and forth between that, Magnaflow X with high flow cats and the O/R H from Pypes that Bill has (drool stream everytime after watching his vid). My friend has the Magnaflow but on his the Drone is louder. Bill told me also that if I don't want my drone louder then it is now, don't go with the O/R H, it's loud.
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I've got the same setup as TacoBell, er... TacoBill ( ) and like others have said, some people like the drone, others don't. No use having a tiffy about it, it's just opinions. That's what makes this place great, otherwise, we'd all be riding around in the same looking and sounding car.
I had the resonators installed on mine and couldnt be happier. It got rid of all of the trumpets along with almost all of the drone. It did quite it down a little, which was fine with me because it was bordering on too loud to begin with.
I had the resonators installed on mine and couldnt be happier. It got rid of all of the trumpets along with almost all of the drone. It did quite it down a little, which was fine with me because it was bordering on too loud to begin with.
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Totally agree, I don't really care if people want to over what I think is too loud, I was just hoping to get some feedback on which setup produces the least drone. For a while I thought maybe I had a bad set, because ots of people said the drone didn't bother them. Well, I'm beginning to see that some people WANT the drone, so they may have the exact same issue, but are totally happy with it. I rode top down today and I could definitely still hear it. Makes me wonder if the whole muffler is just vibrating.
I think I'll gamble on an O/R Xpipe and see how that goes. The increased flow ought to break up the frequency at the axle-backs and change the dynamic, while adding volume. I'm thinking the loss of the cats will be balanced by the resonators as far as sound goes. My primary purpose was after-all to let those thinking about the resonators know what to expect (see first post). For those who followed TacoBills instructions (thanks Bill) did you also find it necessary to remove the battery tray? If so, do you have to disconnect it too?
-Darth
I think I'll gamble on an O/R Xpipe and see how that goes. The increased flow ought to break up the frequency at the axle-backs and change the dynamic, while adding volume. I'm thinking the loss of the cats will be balanced by the resonators as far as sound goes. My primary purpose was after-all to let those thinking about the resonators know what to expect (see first post). For those who followed TacoBills instructions (thanks Bill) did you also find it necessary to remove the battery tray? If so, do you have to disconnect it too?
-Darth
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Bring on the sound clips please! I'd love to hear that setup. Did the longtubes add a lot of volume or just depth? I don't really want mine to be any louder (well some, maybe), but I sure could go for more depth. Plus the horse power increase would be nice. Speaking of, did you notice a seat of the pants difference after you first drove with them on? I figured so, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger on them yet, I love the sound I have now and am scared to change it.
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Totally agree, I don't really care if people want to over what I think is too loud, I was just hoping to get some feedback on which setup produces the least drone. For a while I thought maybe I had a bad set, because ots of people said the drone didn't bother them. Well, I'm beginning to see that some people WANT the drone, so they may have the exact same issue, but are totally happy with it. I rode top down today and I could definitely still hear it. Makes me wonder if the whole muffler is just vibrating.
I think I'll gamble on an O/R Xpipe and see how that goes. The increased flow ought to break up the frequency at the axle-backs and change the dynamic, while adding volume. I'm thinking the loss of the cats will be balanced by the resonators as far as sound goes. My primary purpose was after-all to let those thinking about the resonators know what to expect (see first post). For those who followed TacoBills instructions (thanks Bill) did you also find it necessary to remove the battery tray? If so, do you have to disconnect it too?
-Darth
I think I'll gamble on an O/R Xpipe and see how that goes. The increased flow ought to break up the frequency at the axle-backs and change the dynamic, while adding volume. I'm thinking the loss of the cats will be balanced by the resonators as far as sound goes. My primary purpose was after-all to let those thinking about the resonators know what to expect (see first post). For those who followed TacoBills instructions (thanks Bill) did you also find it necessary to remove the battery tray? If so, do you have to disconnect it too?
-Darth
I disconnected the battery and pulled the tray out and its right there, do it, it'll save some time and scrapes (again, unless you're skinny as a rail and have long *** arms).
His write-up was spot on, if you follow it, it's a piece of a cake. Be sure and re-align your muffler tips though, mine went a little out of wack after putting on the H-pipe.
Also, I've got the resonators installed on mine (I know, not an X) and loved how it made it sound. Please post some clips afterwards, I've never heard an X with the Stingers and am very curious as to how they sound.
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I love the rumble of the FRPP's, up until you hit that 1800 RPM mark, then the drone hits you like something out of a SI-FI movie, "Make the sound stop". Once past the 2000RPM mark they sound great, untill the next gear shift. I grew up on the old 60's muscle cars, where you could count each cylinder hit wit the lop of the engine. Loud is bad, which is a good thing, but Drone is bad, which is not a good thing. I have a vert, which may be worse, but I want to hear rumble not something like a space ship taking off or my cell phone on vib at 150 decibels.
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It's just personal preference as to which tone you're looking for.
The O/R H will also introduce some trumpeting because of eliminating the cats. Happens around 2500 RPM's, but only lasts for a second. It bugs the heck out of some, but not a big deal to me.
A little something for you Scott... (j/k!)
And yes, if you do yank the tray, you have to completely disconnect the battery and remove it from the car.
Here's a pic of where the rear O2 sensors plug in underneath the Auto tranny. (Thanks Leo for use of your PhotoBucket!)
Thanks Scott! Appreciate the kind words.
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Bring on the sound clips please! I'd love to hear that setup. Did the longtubes add a lot of volume or just depth? I don't really want mine to be any louder (well some, maybe), but I sure could go for more depth. Plus the horse power increase would be nice. Speaking of, did you notice a seat of the pants difference after you first drove with them on? I figured so, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger on them yet, I love the sound I have now and am scared to change it.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showpo...&postcount=308
It adds both volume and depth. Do you feel it...oh yeah! No Dyno, but I shaved 3 tenths off my quarter mile times.
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oops didn't read the whole thread
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Soundclip (video) is toward the end of the exhaust thread...but since you asked nicely
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showpo...&postcount=308
It adds both volume and depth. Do you feel it...oh yeah! No Dyno, but I shaved 3 tenths off my quarter mile times.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showpo...&postcount=308
It adds both volume and depth. Do you feel it...oh yeah! No Dyno, but I shaved 3 tenths off my quarter mile times.
Thanks again, that made up my mind to go with them. I'm thinking the sound might be a little different since I don't have the cats and have resonators welded in, but I'm sure it'll be nice!
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Thanks Scott! Appreciate the kind words.
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"Whimpersnappers"? Misspelled right? I think you meant whippersnapper, better get back to school.
Wow you're almost 35 huh? Got ya beat bud and let's not try to over-****-ize this whole sound thing.
You bought/leased a "performance" car, now you're modding it and complaing of the residual sound that is music to a car enthusiast ears. I suggest you buy a Prius (spelling) or whatever that thing is, that way you get that nice "quiet" no drone tone you're searching for.
For you guys looking for a REALLY nice hotrod exhaust note that makes you go into the garage just to start your car so you can hear the rumble, go with the Borla Stingers.
Wow you're almost 35 huh? Got ya beat bud and let's not try to over-****-ize this whole sound thing.
You bought/leased a "performance" car, now you're modding it and complaing of the residual sound that is music to a car enthusiast ears. I suggest you buy a Prius (spelling) or whatever that thing is, that way you get that nice "quiet" no drone tone you're searching for.
For you guys looking for a REALLY nice hotrod exhaust note that makes you go into the garage just to start your car so you can hear the rumble, go with the Borla Stingers.
And if you are really wanting something "old school", go find a real hot rod and stay away from ANY multi-cammed, Hi-tech, small displacement V-8 thats just trying to sound like a bigger engine. My little ol' 351W ain't no race engine, but with LT's, Dr. Gas X-pipe, chambered Spin-tech's that exit in front of the rear tires, it will always sound better than my '07!!
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ehh..Exhaust and sounding good are all a personal preference. Everyone has their own opinion on what sounds good, thats why I really get a kick out of people wanting to know how a particular exhaust sounds.
You should get what you want and what you like, not just what someone else thinks is cool or sounds good.
You should get what you want and what you like, not just what someone else thinks is cool or sounds good.
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Well I too thought there was too much drone with the frpp/borlas, and the bassanis with comp cats and xpipe. I finally tried the supreme axle backs from ninosport which are exact same part as the ford for there gth. No drone at all. A hair louder than stock. But most are adding the xpipe and it gets a little louder again but again with no drone. The tips look way better than the bassani or the borlas in my opinion. Eventually I may add the xpipe and possibly some longtube headers or shortys to get even a little more. I really dig the no drone factor. Just thought I would post my comments since I am on the 4th pair of axlebacks. stock, bassani, borla, and now supreme, dont think I will be changing again. Good luck to all.
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An update, have had the FRPP's for about a month now, guessing 500-600 miles on them, and the drone is fading. It has gotten to the point where it does not bother me, I hear it but not as bad as it was at first ( either that or I am getting used to them). also in that time I got the K&N with a tune, that helped too by changing the shift points keeping out of that 1800 rpm range for normal driving.
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An update, have had the FRPP's for about a month now, guessing 500-600 miles on them, and the drone is fading. It has gotten to the point where it does not bother me, I hear it but not as bad as it was at first ( either that or I am getting used to them). also in that time I got the K&N with a tune, that helped too by changing the shift points keeping out of that 1800 rpm range for normal driving.