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Old 12/8/07 | 03:27 AM
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Where'd you order from?
Sears, in the brake tools section of the tool department. $13 with tax
Old 12/8/07 | 06:22 AM
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You went to the store, huh? I can't find it in the online store. Sometimes it sucks being overseas.
Old 12/8/07 | 03:59 PM
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Thread resurrection!

The SS lines are great at the track--although I didn't install the rear ones since I broke off one of the fittings while torquing them down...will have to get another one later down the road.

The Solo-Bleeders are GREAT too! I bleed the brakes before every track event, and this cut the time required in half, plus I don't have to have another person there, so I can do it on my own schedule. GREAT "mod".
Old 12/8/07 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 06GT
Thread resurrection!

The SS lines are great at the track--although I didn't install the rear ones since I broke off one of the fittings while torquing them down...will have to get another one later down the road.

The Solo-Bleeders are GREAT too! I bleed the brakes before every track event, and this cut the time required in half, plus I don't have to have another person there, so I can do it on my own schedule. GREAT "mod".
What fitting did you break?
Old 12/8/07 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by I-70 west
Sears, in the brake tools section of the tool department. $13 with tax
Originally Posted by scramblr
You went to the store, huh? I can't find it in the online store. Sometimes it sucks being overseas.
Yes, I went to the store in Bellingham WA. They had 2 hanging on the wall.
For Canadians I didn`t try the Sears here, don`t know if they`re available.
Cross border shopping is big bussinesss in the Vancouver area with major shopping so close to the USA border.

Taxes in Canada and its trickle down effect in the economy drive lots of people across the border for shopping with considerable price differences on identical items.
Old 12/9/07 | 09:21 PM
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What fitting did you break?
the round part that the caliper flow bolt goes through
Old 12/9/07 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 06GT
the round part that the caliper flow bolt goes through
You're not the only one... I know of AT LEAST two others who have done exactly the same thing, and I'm one of them...
Old 12/10/07 | 12:18 AM
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You're not the only one... I know of AT LEAST two others who have done exactly the same thing, and I'm one of them...
I didn't even install the rear SS lines because of this, I just put the stock ones back on. Didn't want to unbalance the braking R/L on the track.

Do you know of any kits where you can just get the rear hoses--or a single rear SS hose?

I don't want to order another full set at $120 if I can avoid it.
Old 12/10/07 | 02:25 AM
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You guys are scaring me. My car is up on jack stands right now putting in a Spydershaft. I just figured I would do the brake lines while I am there. Any tips to avoid this breaking thing you speak of?
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Old 12/10/07 | 03:34 AM
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Eh, do the lines, Just don't overtighten things. I broke one of the Speed Bleeders from overtightening, thankfully I didn't damage the caliper.
Old 12/10/07 | 08:08 AM
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06GT: Check with PMPParts.com, they sell the Goodridge hoses in individual front and rear sets. Josh and Kevin are awesome to deal with, and they have great prices.

70MACH: Don't worry about doing the install, and unlike ANYTHING else on your car, forget about torque specs on the banjo bolts. When you start to tighten down the lines, you'll need to be gentle and "feel" when the line fitting bites into the copper washers. Start with the line rotated a bit too far to the counterclockwise position on the caliper, since it will pivot as you tighten. If you use some sort of prybar to brace the line in position, you're asking for trouble. After I broke my Earls line (right-rear, of course), I ordered up a set of Steeda lines, and never looked back. The Steeda lines come with blocks at the caliper end, just like the factory lines, not a simple hoop like the Earls or the Goodridge (not positive about the Goodridge, but believe that to be correct).

Once you're done with the install, spray the fittings liberally with brake cleaner, and double check for leaks after you bleed them and then do a couple of "panic stop" style hits on the brake pedal and recheck for leaks.

I did a "step by step" here that may be helpful.
Old 12/10/07 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SoundGuyDave
06GT: Check with PMPParts.com, they sell the Goodridge hoses in individual front and rear sets. Josh and Kevin are awesome to deal with, and they have great prices.

70MACH: Don't worry about doing the install, and unlike ANYTHING else on your car, forget about torque specs on the banjo bolts. When you start to tighten down the lines, you'll need to be gentle and "feel" when the line fitting bites into the copper washers. Start with the line rotated a bit too far to the counterclockwise position on the caliper, since it will pivot as you tighten. If you use some sort of prybar to brace the line in position, you're asking for trouble. After I broke my Earls line (right-rear, of course), I ordered up a set of Steeda lines, and never looked back. The Steeda lines come with blocks at the caliper end, just like the factory lines, not a simple hoop like the Earls or the Goodridge (not positive about the Goodridge, but believe that to be correct).

Once you're done with the install, spray the fittings liberally with brake cleaner, and double check for leaks after you bleed them and then do a couple of "panic stop" style hits on the brake pedal and recheck for leaks.

I did a "step by step" here that may be helpful.
Thanks Dave
Absolutely great information and write up. Look out TacoBill
Scott
Old 12/10/07 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SoundGuyDave
06GT: Check with PMPParts.com, they sell the Goodridge hoses in individual front and rear sets. Josh and Kevin are awesome to deal with, and they have great prices.
Thanks for the recommendation. I see they have the Stop-Tech rear-only kit for 93$. I'll probably order these in January.
Old 12/14/07 | 04:56 PM
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Hey Import-Slaya and Scramblr,
I started installing my Earls SS lines tonight and I have a slight issue. I believe I have read about this problem in several threads. I started on the passerger rear line. I appears that Earls line is installed in the bracket in reverse or pointing the wrong direction. It looks like a simple swap. Is this the problem I have read about? Looks like Earl must have hired some temp help in the assembly dept.
Scott
Old 12/14/07 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 70MACH1OWNER
Hey Import-Slaya and Scramblr,
I started installing my Earls SS lines tonight and I have a slight issue. I believe I have read about this problem in several threads. I started on the passerger rear line. I appears that Earls line is installed in the bracket in reverse or pointing the wrong direction. It looks like a simple swap. Is this the problem I have read about? Looks like Earl must have hired some temp help in the assembly dept.
Scott
My rears were fine...but given the problems w/ the fronts I wouldn't be surprised if they messed up a bunch of rears as well. The stickers for Right vs. Left might also be on the wrong sides--try fitting the other side's line instead and seeing if this works.

The front lines are installed upside down in the brackets, and possibly swapped L to R as well. Pull the retaining clip that holds the bracket to the line, reorient the bracket, reinstall the clip.

You'll see how it's SUPPOSED to line up when you try to mount the bracket to the fenderwell.
Old 12/14/07 | 06:31 PM
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Yeppers, you'll probably need to swap out the fronts as well. Looks like most of them are like that. Hell, my lines were even labled wrong between passenger and driver sides like 06 GTs. Easy fix though...

The quality of the lines is great as are the parts, but they have some real idiots putting them together.
Old 12/14/07 | 06:57 PM
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Thanks for confirming what I thought I already knew. I won't do anymore until after work tomorrow but I will pay very close attention to the lines and brackets.
Scott
Old 12/14/07 | 11:13 PM
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Wow, thats makes another one here. my rear lines were marked backwards also.
Im not sure if mine were Earls or not tho. Had them on for a year and a half and cant remember where I got them.
Old 12/15/07 | 06:27 AM
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That's the problem we've all seen. Easy fix, but it definitely makes you wonder exactly how drunk the assembly line was... Good thing it isn't a critical component like brakes or something.
Old 12/15/07 | 07:43 AM
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Lol. Yeah, for the 1st 30 seconds I was like, Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh crap, WTF! #$%^ $%@!* Oh ok, I can fix that.



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