tom281

Ok you Borla lovers....... as soon as I regain feeling in my forearms, I'll be ready to get another set of clips- Borlas with the Bassani X, NO CATS. That's right, the cats are off and the race pipes (offroad pipes) are on- now just gotta finish the reinstallation and I'll be ready to roar!

SlamMan02

score! I cant wait to hear borla w/ or X

max2000jp

Great!! I have magnaflows and an OR X-pipe. I am thinking about doing Bassanis, but am eager to hear what the Borlas sound like.

tom281

Ok, this isn't the best clip but atleast its consistent with the other "garage" clips in this thread. I couldn't rev it much past 3500 rpm because it is LOUD and I have neighbors..... This X with no cats really woke the Borlas up; they are LOUD LOUD LOUD and after a quick test drive I think I'll keep it that way for a day or so while I try the Corsas- then likely the cats are going back in.

There is a noticeable rasp now, and what I wouldn't describe as drone but more like interior resonance overall. I'll take it out tomorrow morning for my normalSunday morning thrashing and see just how noticeable the resonance is. My immediate thoughts other than the loudness and the rasp is that the offroad H sounded alittle better with the Borlas than the X does; I'll continue my judgement tomorrow.

Garage clip:

05-1947

Tom,

You are the man! You also must be really sick of changing exhaust parts as well.

tom281

Yep, I'm getting alittle tired of it... but its pretty cool hearing the setups. I had to work hard to get the racepipes into the X- hopefully I can manage to get them out when it's time.

qkrnsht

That was going to be my next question.
How easy/hard is it to switch from race pipes to cats? It would be nice if you could take off the cats for some weekend fun then be able to slide under there and put them back on - granted it's not 1hr+ job.

When you take it out for soem fun with the o/r X and Borla see if you can film it i am interested in hearing it at WOT or close to it. Good time to grab the Mrs. for that. Thats what god gave them arms for - to hold the camera still

tom281

Ok, here is a clip of the Borlas with no cats at WOT. If it didn't have the trumpeting and resonance, it would be awesome.



I tried to capture some of the interior resonance of the Borlas with no cats- see if you can hear it:



Overall it would be a killer sound if it didn't have the trumpeting and resonance. Also as a side note, with this setup the car feels like its lost alittle lowend but gained alittle topend....weird.

05-1947

Brent would be proud of you. LOL

I think I liked the sound of the Borla's with the cats rather than without.

So what is next, the Corsa's with this same set up?

It is not easy. If they made them to just bolt in with some type of flange yes, but they don't. You actually have to slide them on the down pipes, and then slide them into the X portion of the pipe, which then has to the catback pipes sliding into it.....

Like Tom said, if the catback attached to the x like the factory h, then it would be a lot easier.

tom281

I don't know......I want to try the Corsas but I also just want to put the cats back on and do more evaluation between the Borlas and Corsas. We'll see- I'm heading out to the garage now.

SlamMan02

Very cool...so far I like the O/r X with the stingers best...but its kind of hard to tell what it really sounds like with the wind in the driveby video

70MACH1OWNER

Gooooooo..... Borla!!!

tom281

Ok, I got the cats back in. This is a good example of what to expect to when changing from cats to race pipes- it just took me about 2.5 hours non-stop. The biggest problem being trying to remove the cats and/or race pipes after inserting them into the X and down pipes and clamping them down- they are next to impossible to remove, atleast using the tools that I have- air, hammer, vise, etc. I've basically decided that I'm gonna leave the cats in, and when I feel like raisin' heck I'm just gonna drop the whole assembly and reinstall the offroad H- it sounds better than the offroad X anyway IMO. I can remove/reinstall the o/r H in about 45 minutes- much quicker than changing the configuration of the Bassani X.

So I've got the cats in and the Borlas on- I'm gonna leave it like that for a couple days and take a break from this exhaust work for now. I'll post back in a couple of days and run with the Corsas for a while then too. Hopefully this info and the clips have helped some of you out in your decision making; I'm gonna grab a beer and watch the Colts.

Tom

05-1947

Yep, after watching my installer struggle with the pipe I knew it would stay in Cat form! I think if most people knew how hard the switch time is, they would not buy the pipe.

Hey Tom, I know that this helped a lot of people and I am sure they are thankful for your hard labor. I am drinking a beer too, so cheers to ya.

Poco

Wow Tom...you must really love your car.I know how you feel.I've many a night installing headers,steel and free flow cast iron units on my older street machines.Its no fun but the reward is more performance and a better sounding car.Good Job!

tom281

Thanks for the kind words!

I do love my car! I take great pride in how my car looks and is kept overall- and in my opinion how it sounds is just as important as how it looks. Changing all these setups and making clips was pretty fun overall. Plus, while I was under the car all that time I got to scope out other potential mods, like motor mounts and longtube headers, new upper control arm (would be much easier to change if you remove the overaxle pipes), rear springs and shocks, etc.

SixtySix

If and when you go longubes, it's a great time to change out the K-member and motor mounts. It makes the header install a lot easier

tom281

Yep, sure looks that way! Thanks for the advice.

S197 V6

If you end up going with the Corsas and want to sell the Borlas let me know, because Im going dual with my car and want a set of stingers!

max2000jp

Okay I've got a dilemma. My car was rear-ended and insurance is paying for new mufflers. My body shop guy said that the Magnaflows on the car are 617.00(yes I know I can find them cheaper). I liked the Maganflows, but I am thinking of running something different. I am thinking of running Corsa's or Bassani's. I thought Tom ran Corsa's with an OR X. Please provide me with some insight!! Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!

Jason