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Old 8/31/07, 05:12 AM
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Anyone running E85 with a Whipple/Saleen/Roush/KB Blower?

Just curious is anyone is running E85 with a Whipple/Saleen/Roush/KB Blower?
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Thought some mods had to be made in order to run E85 in our cars? I know I read in one of the magazines that they were modifying a blown car to run E85, don't remember what had to be done.
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I recall a similar article and believe they said something about replacing fuel lines and certain hoses. I'm pretty sure there was more but I don't recall the details.
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we cant run e85 stock so i dont think many will run it will a blower
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http://www.e85mustangs.com/index.html
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Thanks for the link. I could have sworn I read that someone with a S197 tried E85 and it worked with no mods. I remember a few weeks ago reading about a 03-04 Cobra being converted to run on E85. Just curious.

What about those of yall who run the gas/ethanol blend that has 10% ethanol - any problems or issues with forced induction?

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Need a lot more fuel pump and needs someone who knows how to tune for E85. E85 needs ~6.5:1 AFR to make power or something around that. It is possible. I would have made the switch but E85 is just not available in all the places I need it to be.
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$2 a gallon? forget that. You have to use more E85 just to get the same amount of power from gasoline, so you'll be filling up more often, and at $2, I don't see it being worth it yet. If it was $1 a gallon, then yeah.
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Originally Posted by Mustangfreak
$2 a gallon? forget that. You have to use more E85 just to get the same amount of power from gasoline, so you'll be filling up more often, and at $2, I don't see it being worth it yet. If it was $1 a gallon, then yeah.

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E85 doesnt have the BTU's that gasoline has so yes you will use more. E85 has a higher octane level than gas.

here is one article from a recent 5.0 magazine.

http://www.magazine-agent.com/redire...uperfords.com/
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Originally Posted by Mustangfreak
$2 a gallon? forget that. You have to use more E85 just to get the same amount of power from gasoline, so you'll be filling up more often, and at $2, I don't see it being worth it yet. If it was $1 a gallon, then yeah.
Except E85 is way over 100 octane. That's why it's better. It's not a money thing at all. For a forced induction application it is very beneficial to switch to E85 and it will make more power.
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Bullitt995 hit the nail on the head. One of the guys at the dyno shop I go to is going to be converting his 2007 GT into E85. They have a 750HP Eagle Talon running it right now. They could only get 680HP out of it with the same mods with race gas. There's massive performance potential in E85, thats for sure.
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Well if its more bennificial for when a car has a power adder, then maybe I'll convert when I get my turbo.
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I don't see E85 as a long-term solution. I see it as something that GM (very heavily) and some politicians have jumped on the bandwagon with, but that is about all. E85 can cost almost as much to produce as gasoline, when you figure in the cost of growing the corn, transporting the raw materials, constructing refineries, and the cost of transporting the finished product. It draws moisture much more readily than gasoline, so it can't be transported in pipe lines, it must be transported in tanker trucks.

Here in Springfield, MO, where I'm at, we're pretty much in the midwest, yet there is only one station in our town of 180,000 that sells E85. A previous station discontinued carrying it after having repeated problems (and a lot of expense) with customer's cars not running right on E85, fuel systems going bad, etc. E85 is corrosive, and numerous mods have to be made to a non-E85 car in order to run it.

I can see E85 being used in a purpose-built race car, where the engine and other components are rebuilt or replaced on a regular basis. But on a street car that has to get you to work every day, it's a gamble (unless it is a flex-fuel car from the factory).

I don't like to funnel oil money to the Middle East and Venezuela any more than the next guy, but I also don't see E85 as being a long-term solution.
Just my .02.
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Originally Posted by JonW
I don't see E85 as a long-term solution. I see it as something that GM (very heavily) and some politicians have jumped on the bandwagon with, but that is about all. E85 can cost almost as much to produce as gasoline, when you figure in the cost of growing the corn, transporting the raw materials, constructing refineries, and the cost of transporting the finished product. It draws moisture much more readily than gasoline, so it can't be transported in pipe lines, it must be transported in tanker trucks.

Here in Springfield, MO, where I'm at, we're pretty much in the midwest, yet there is only one station in our town of 180,000 that sells E85. A previous station discontinued carrying it after having repeated problems (and a lot of expense) with customer's cars not running right on E85, fuel systems going bad, etc. E85 is corrosive, and numerous mods have to be made to a non-E85 car in order to run it.

I can see E85 being used in a purpose-built race car, where the engine and other components are rebuilt or replaced on a regular basis. But on a street car that has to get you to work every day, it's a gamble (unless it is a flex-fuel car from the factory).

I don't like to funnel oil money to the Middle East and Venezuela any more than the next guy, but I also don't see E85 as being a long-term solution.
Just my .02.
It's definatly a bust for long term solution but 2 dollar race gas is awesome.

Here's an interesting link:

http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...?topic=47094.0

1000 rwhp car on E85 with zero effects of corrosion after 9 months of testing.
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well if you look ford has already made an E85 mustang before that ran on either race fuel or E85 and could be switched in the trunk, it even had an on/off switch for the supercharger, it was the Super Stallion and i wish i could have one
http://www.mustang50magazine.com/fea...ion/index.html
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