Don't know if I'd ever use this setup, even if I had the money, but it sure is different, and friggen kewl.

http://www.techcointl.com/5-0L-3V-Cr...01-b000997.htm

 

It would be great for a show car.

 

Velocity stacks are great for high revving engines. So even with stock bore and stroke as long as you run 11:1 and ported heads as well as some custom ground cams caped with some 10,000rpm springs. You could rev the ***** out the engine making around 450hp+ @ 7500-8000rpm.

That would be a wicked setup for a road course as well as basically bullet proof.

 

$21,000?!!

 

My thoughts exactly. But it is pretty!!

 

The BMW M3's 4.0L V8 (makes 414 hp naturally aspirated) employs a similar intake design. I was impressed that they made it a production motor.

 

Actualy velocity stacks are a very old design, they were used in the 60's & 50's widely in motorsports. With enough fab skills you can have a nice set of velocity stacks on your 3v engine with a cold air insulated box for less than a grand.

If that engine comes with ported heads and springs, you could be looking at around 550hp with 11:1 @ 302ci and still run on 93octane with the right tune.

That engine looks sick.

 

Yes, but velocity stacks are still used in Formula 1 and other modern motor sports.

 

Yes... the downside to velocity stacks is that it kills low end torque but they work well with high rpm. Reason why F1 engines rev to 19k+

 

Yep, and why the BMW M3's 4.0L V8 can rev to 8000+ RPM and make 414 hp naturally aspirated.

 

Yes, definitely. It makes 420hp as well as 295lb of torque @3900rpm...

Nicely put there.... 0-60 in 4.8seconds, a nearly stock stang can do those 0-60dashes. Not to mention the 22.8mpg estimated, in euro trim.

 

Actually the BMW M3 is only slightly lagging behind the C6 Z51 Corvette in 0-60 MPH, 1/4 ET, skidpad, and lane change. It does the 1/4 in something like 12.7 seconds and manages 0.95G on the skidpad. A stock S197 GT won't even come close to those numbers (except 0-60 MPH) especially with its "moderate" understeer. The BMW M3 also has an electronically adjustable suspension, projector Xenon HID headlights, LED exterior lights, carbon fiber roof, universal garage transmitter, and 10+ year corrosion warranty thanks to German engineering. My stock S197 gets 23 MPG in mixed driving (only by doing 15 MPH below the speed limit on our freeways) and many of our aluminum hoods have already started to rust.

The M3's 4.0L V8 makes 414 hp and about as much torque as a stock 96-98 Ford 4.6L 2V V8. Ford's 4.6L 2V made anywhere from 200 hp to 260 hp in stock trim, while the 3V and 4V kick it up to a meager 300-320 hp. My Crown Vic has the same motor as a 96-98 Mustang GT and came with 215 hp / 285 ft-lb, but in reality people got about 190 bhp based on dyno figures. I have yet to see a naturally aspirated streetable and production-quality Ford 4.6L 2/3/4V V8 make 476 hp.

FWIW the BMW 335d Coupe gets 56 MPG and has 284 hp, 16 hp down from the 335i's gas twin-turbo I6 (300 hp) but it has 420+ ft-lb of torque. 0-60 in 6 seconds and puts the Prius to shame with gas mileage. 850+ miles between fill-ups. It's not cheap but that is the personification of balanced engineering.

 

Go buy a BMW already.

 

I have a solution for you however. Sell the crownvic then sell the s197 stang. Save up and take public transport and then buy yourself a nice M3. Maybe your m3 will get schooled by a s197 by then. I am sick and tired of hearing that trash.

 

Yes, the ECOnetic Fiesta is rated for 65 MPG. They have ECOnetic Focuses as well. We still have the lousy C170 Focus in the States while everyone in the world gets the C1 Focus (including Taiwan). Subaru has diesels and even the Jaguar XJ twin-turbo gets 53 MPG on the highway. Luxury and fuel economy.

The Crown Vics won't get 500k miles. The 4R70W will fail well before then, even faster when supercharged or bolted to a high torque engine setup. The OD band is the first to go. My Vic gets an abysmal 20 MPG on the highway only by cruising at 55 MPH in a 70 MPH zone (factory rating was 21 MPG) and acts up when it is moist and cold. The Coil packs are brand new.

I checked out the Corvette L4T's around my area and couldn't find many. I called up dealers that were farther away and the prices were competitive with the BMW M3 Coupe. The problem with the Corvette is that you get old-person styling with cheap GM plastic interiors (wrapped with cheap leather on the L4T), but the HUD and F55 magnetic suspension is nice.

 

I think this is even better.

 

I know for a fact the crownvic my buddy has, has over 480k on it. It needs a new heatercore and still gets over 20mpg. Its now a retired cab, I even considered getting it off his hands and using it as a winter beater.

Then your comparing a crownvic with forced induction that's not factory and retails for around 25-30k depending on where you get it to a BMW M3?

I should restate my previous statement. You should sell both your cars and move out the country.

FYI
LT4 vettes are C4's z51 package budd, ls6 & ls1 is for z06 c5 & ca5/early c6. C6 is ls2 or ls3 mostly and if driven carefully will net over 30mpg and will smoke a m3 out the box. Z06 now gets a ls7 (427ci btw) gets over 25mpg and has 505hp out the box, with bolt on's on the ls7 you get over 600crank and still get over 25mpg highway. Ls3 with bolt on's gets over 500crank btw. FI ls3 is good for over 600 to the wheels. As for cheep interors, maybe so. But it will put a bigger smile on my face than a m3 all the way to the bank.

Again your comparing apples to oranges. You have to admit you have a problem with ford & anything made here. Sell them both and buy something that tickles your fancy. If the cars you own don't make you happy then you made a misinformed purchase and its your fault not the manufacturers. Do your homework before buying anything.

 

that is absolutely gorgeous