I miss them. The fogs were GREAT when needed.

 

I do enjoy the fogs for the occasional very dark night with no moon. They really do light up the road better.

 

Would it be sacreligious (sp) to add the fogs if you bought one? I would of course keep the original grill

I only ask because alot of the new edge Bullitts have been gutted by their owners.

 

fogs in grill it would be, but a PJ or gt500 style lower facia with fogs would be acceptable i think.

 

I was thinking it might be cool to install stealth fog (driving) lights BEHIND the Bullitt grille. I respect what others mention regarding the standard GT fogs but, to me, they just seem way too big given the amount of light they give off. I'm no expert on lighting but I'm thinking that a good set of PIAA lamps might be a worthy alternative. Now if I only had a clue how to fabricate a non-intrusive mount for them!

 

I too don't like the total removal of the driving lights, but they really couldn’t remain in the grill on a Bullitt car.

Ascetically I really liked the 2005~2008 Mustang GT driving lights in the grill. They remind me of the 1969 Mustang. I think they are a little bit too big, but I still like the GT lights better than the six cylinder smaller lights. But I think they do their actual job better when they are mounted lower than the standard headlights.

If you had the HID headlight option, you would see that the "fog lights" don't enhance much in combination with the BRILLIANT HID headlights. **** These HID’s are bright.

 

The stock GT foglamps are just foglamps, and they are adequately sized. The PIAA's are driving lamps intended for off-road use (not quite street legal).

IMHO, and take it for what it is worth keeping in mind I DO LIKE the 08 Bullitt, the Bullitt ought to have at least used the GT500-style front fascia with the foglamps placed in the lower corners ala the GT390 turn signals. Granted, the Bullitt Mustang used in the movie may not have had fog lamps, but that actual GT390 Mustang didn't have fuel injection, a Ford 8.8" rear end, axle-back mufflers, catalytic converters, charge motion control valves (CMCV), twin-bore throttle body with drive-by-wire throttle control, ABS, Traction Control, airbags, power trunk release, power windows, power leather heated seats, a 6-disc CD/MP3 changer and player, subwoofers, electric radiator fan, DIS COP ignition, or a PATS RF transponder key either. I guess my point is that you can get a sleek Bullitt but they shouldn't have skimped out on conveniences that are already found on the V6 and GT Mustangs. It'd be like taking away amenities on a car that costs more. Then again, they DO charge more for the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera versus the regular Gallardo.

 

The foglamp beam pattern is aimed much lower than it would appear. They work as intended and mounting them higher prevents them from getting clogged with mud and salt or at least reduces it. I had a rental G6 with projector foglamps that would have a buildup of mud on the low mounted foglamps reducing their effectiveness.

The HIDs still have to meet FMVSS 108 compliance so they're not going to be significantly brighter in the low beam mode. I've seen test reports for Cadillac HIDs that were about comparable to a set of halogen headlamps. It's the white light color that makes you think there is much more light output.

 

I don't mind the Bullitt. I just hate the fact that you can't get a green convertible with, say, a parchment cloth top. [Yeah, I know...Ford doesn't offer the cloth top in parchment either.] I'd bet that, in a couple of years, Ford will offer dark green as a color choice for a "non-Bullitt" Mustang. Money talks.

 

I have no way to actually gauge with any precision how much light one light makes compared to another light. But I will tell you this; I can see signs and reflective signposts reflecting a LONG way off that I never ever saw prior to driving with my new HID headlights. That says to me these lights are illuminating vastly more than my 2005 non-HID lights.

I live out in the country, at night there are mostly NO street lights, and very few other sources of man made light. My HID headlights illuminate way more out here in the pitch dark than any of my non-HID headlights.

As to FMVSS 108 compliance, it is a nice phrase, but in practice it really doesn’t mean too much, I work with FDA compliance on a daily basis, I can tell you with certainty that many things are considered to be “in compliance” with a particular government regulation or another and absolutely are not.

My experience indicates the HID’s are a vastly brighter headlight.

 

Yeah I guess the fogs are the only think I think the Bullitt is missing. I put some Silver Star bulbs in it a couple months after I got it, and as an example of how bright they are, last night I drove home with just the fogs on and didn't realize it until I was almost there.

 

True they may be brighter and you can see farther in the distance. Fogs IMO are pretty useless for that, but what I did like is that they iluminated with great clarity directly in front of the car. So it's not that they provided brighter light, but where they iluminated, IMO anyway.

I totally intended to add the fog lights to my Bullitt when Ford started offering them but then decided not to. For one, after I got the car and really looked at it I decided I wouldn't like how they looked, and for another, the COST!!!! Last check they were somewhere around $800-900!!!

 

...so nothing extra like subframe connectors or other frame stiffening parts...or extra sound deadening in car to keep out unwanted NVH? Thanks for the response

 

They are not a vastly brighter light. They generally aren't even twice as bright as halogens in the low beam due to FMVSS 108 restrictions. The FDA is not the same as NHTSA. If the headlamps fail FMVSS 108, they can't be put on a production on-road vehicle. You'd be amazed at how much testing is done and how much money is spent to make sure they comply. The Cadillac Escalade HIDs are maybe 1.5 times brighter than a good set of halogens in the low beam mode. The high beam is another story because there aren't many restrictions on the peak output - but no one typically drives with the high beams on the whole time. The HID capsule itself is capable of 2-3 times more output than a halogen capsule, but the testing mandates the evaluation of an entire reflector/projector and capsule assembly, and halogen/HID/LED fall under the same restrictions in FMVSS 108. The white light is easier to pick up by the human eye since it is interpreted as glare. I drive with HIDs on the Crown Vic and can tell you that they're really not a big improvement over halogens. While the signs are reflected farther away and the color looks white, I don't see any true benefit over halogens other than reduced power consumption and longer life span. It didn't feel any safer on the highway than using halogens.

The foglamps are NOT intended for distance lighting. They are quite useless past 100', but they are intended for lighting the near-field road and to prevent back dazzle during foggy or misty conditions.

 

No But $3000 worth of parts put on at the factory with FULL Factory Warranty that will cost much more than that to add to your GT GT/CS and you still won’t have a Bullitt…

Your reply indicates that no matter how long the Bullitt’s list of improvements is you are still going to refuse to acknowledge them. BIZZZTTT... Thanks for playing.

 

I'm told by a buddy who works for Ford that they did install a subframe connector and extra sound deadening. Neither is specifically listed on the window sticker and I don't recall seeing either listed on the hero card.

Given that I've not yet been under the car I cannot speak to the subframe connector. In terms of sound deadening this car is significantly quieter than my 05 was. In my mind that could mean additional sound deadening but unless I want to rip the car apart its not likely that I'm gonna find out.

 

For me at least, I have noticed a difference using the HID's and fogs together. Really fills out the pattern. HID's are great of course... but it's nice to know the fogs are more than just decoration.

 

I wonder if they did add extra sound deadening for the Bullitt. This would go against the original Bullitt idea because IIRC, the "Bullitt" GT390 was loud as heck. I remember Richard Hammond having to yell at the top of his lungs to try and talk inside that thing.

 

According to my friend the additional sound deadening was added to all 08 Mustangs... not just the Bullitt.

 

Interesting. I wonder how much heavier the 08s became due to the additional sound deadening materials. I know my 07 GT is already well insulated. The 08 GT/Bullitt probably feels like it has the insulation from a Jaguar or Mercedes-Benz.