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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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SVT and Ford know full well customers will be adding boost and putting a higher demand on cooling system components.
Thats my point exactly, I'm sure Dodge realized this as well, customers would be amping up the power not only through N/A means (I'm tempted to say tradtional route, but it seems F/I is more common place now), but also with F/I.

This is Dodge's halo car, IMO I would have made sure the various support systems (as well as the rest of the drivetrain) appeared as bullet proof as possible.

Look at the Mustang (IRS/SRA silliness aside), brakes have always been a Mustang sore spot. No matter how good the braking system on a Mustang might be or get, general consensus is that they are inadequate at every level.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bob
Thats my point exactly, I'm sure Dodge realized this as well, customers would be amping up the power not only through N/A means (I'm tempted to say tradtional route, but it seems F/I is more common place now), but also with F/I.

This is Dodge's halo car, IMO I would have made sure the various support systems (as well as the rest of the drivetrain) appeared as bullet proof as possible.

Look at the Mustang (IRS/SRA silliness aside), brakes have always been a Mustang sore spot. No matter how good the braking system on a Mustang might be or get, general consensus is that they are inadequate at every level.
I'll disagree with you there. A built stroker with FI running the track at Willow Springs is undoubtedly the extreme rarity.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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725hp wouldn't be to hard to get with FI on a stock bore and stroke hemi either. In any event its nice to know with the GT500 you dont have to blow some bills on a new cooling system if you really lean on the motor.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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Exactly!

On the GT500 a SIMPLE blower swap & tune can bump you over 800 horsepower, every other system, cooling transmission, clutch, rearend etc holds up to it. You don't even have to crack a valve cover...

NOW THAT IS A LOT OF BANG FOR THE BUCK~



Originally Posted by bob
725hp wouldn't be to hard to get with FI on a stock bore and stroke hemi either. In any event its nice to know with the GT500 you dont have to blow some bills on a new cooling system if you really lean on the motor.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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yep. simple tunes, reliable power. that's what svt is all about
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dougxox
Saw a stock Challanger at a local car show... 1K #s over the stock mustang, we can beat these in a short race easy.
Originally Posted by exgto
More posted opinions and ZERO facts to support them.
To the poster that says we'll beat these cars easily in a short race...do you realize how completely false and lame of a statement that is?

please re-read, I did some highlighting for you so you may understand a little better. Who is lame now.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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please re-read, I did some highlighting for you so you may understand a little better. Who is lame now.
Perhaps you need to re-read.

There's a big difference between saying your statement is lame and using the word to characterize you, which I did not do. So again, I find your assertion lame..not you. I still have no idea what you are referring to by "1k#'s over a stock Mustang", Moreover, "beating them easy in a short race" - huh??

Now back on topic..if someone can explain to me how exactly an RT with a better power to weight ratio and gearing advantage is slower than a stock GT...I'll burn my engineering degree, and dismiss the data I've seen to support my statement. Will a GT beat an RT? Sure, the numbers are very close, and frankly it will come down to options on the cars involved and driver skill. Case closed.

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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I think a well driven GT can beat a R/T challenger and maybe even a Hemi challenger in the 1/4..them being auto of course
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by exgto
More posted opinions and ZERO facts to support them. How refreshing...

To the poster that says we'll beat these cars easily in a short race...do you realize how completely false and lame of a statement that is?
So I guess declaring something to be 'lame' must be fact, and not opinion then since you dismiss opinions here.

Enough of the 'lame' bickering and back to the topic already.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Berol
So I guess declaring something to be 'lame' must be fact, and not opinion then since you dismiss opinions here.

Enough of the 'lame' bickering and back to the topic already.
When you can distinguish the difference between an opinion and an assertion, be sure and let me know.

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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Awesome Vid. At the end of the day, the Mopar overheated and the Snake won.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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Can't beat the fun factor but traction on both suck big time.

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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by exgto

Now back on topic..if someone can explain to me how exactly an RT with a better power to weight ratio and gearing advantage is slower than a stock GT...I'll burn my engineering degree, and dismiss the data I've seen to support my statement. Will a GT beat an RT? Sure, the numbers are very close, and frankly it will come down to options on the cars involved and driver skill. Case closed.
Didn't you just contradict yourself??
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