boss429man

Been under a lot off Porsche,it's just a glorified V/W.IMO the only reason they top the Quality list is they don't make that many .These cars are not in the same class.Good luck with your Porshe PCW,now lets talk Mustang.

1 COBRA

Finding insignificant points to counter the lack of what makes Mustangs ticks is naive at best, politely speaking, considering there are better and more accurate describtions available. The Porsche is caviar and the Mustang is cashew halves and pieces, so what? It is not who wins, it is who has the most fun and the amount of those who can afford the Mustang fun.

Whammer

And now the Boss 302 is BACK, and from early reports it seems to be chewing the track up.

I find it curious that someone who doesn't own a Mustang enjoys hanging around Mustang forums and offering their insightful opinions.

Guest123

Why does everyone think the z28 is gonna weigh more than the ctsv coupe?? The ctsv coupe is way lighter! And it is faster then the gt500 especially from a stop! The z28 is just gonna be a 2012 camaro ss with a blower and appearance and interior options which will probably make it heavier than the normal camaro!!

Guest123

And if you have driven a gt500 you would know you can't can traction untill 3rd gear!! And by that time the ctsv is long gone! Especially in the city!

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bob

GM would argue otherwise, stock for stock, the Camaro gets off the line better than the Mustang even with the launch control shut off.

Dont get me wrong, the 3 link in the Mustang is great overall, but the stock geometry and bushings leave alot on the table in the launch department.

Overboost

You are very misinformed...

bob

The CTS-V Coupe is only about 30 pounds lighter than the sedan, the coupe weighs 4238 pounds.

The F5 Z/28 will come in under the CTS-V, there is no way the car is going to gain nearly 400 pounds of weight going from the SS to the Z/28 and the Z/28 is going to be an SS with a blower in much the same way the GT500 is a GT with a blower (which is to say it will be much more comprehinsive than just slapping a blower on the base V8 car and calling it a day).

Interior and exterior stuff will probably be a wash in terms of real weight, I'm betting that going from the the SS to the Z/28 will add maybe 200 pounds so I'm saying right around 4100 lbs.

Guest123

How am I misinformed?? The v is faster than the gt500 and the z28 will be heavier than the ss! That is info from my local chevy dealer! And the v vs gt500 just watch the YouTube videos if you don't believe me! I think your the misinformed one!

Overboost

The V is just slightly faster than the GT500. Your comment about the Z28 being "an SS with a blower" is quite far off. The Z28 is getting magnetic ride control, unique body bits, and the LS-A motor that might make more power than in the CTS-V.

And yes, I've watched the videos that are online between the CTS and GT500. If you want to get real technical, the C&D Lightning lap comparison had the CTS-V coupe put down a 3:04.2, and the GT500 with PP did a 3:04.0. Also, there's about 400 lbs. of curb weight difference. 3824 for the GT500 and 4238 for the V coupe. I'd say, all things equal, that traction is the limiting factor for the GT500 right now.

Evil_Capri

How about we wait until the car arrives instead of internet racing these cars? (Of course more than half of internet car forums would disappear with that logic. )

Slims00ls1z28

Lol wow, GT500 VS CTSV VS Porsche VS Z28, IRS vs SRA. All around the place on this one. Which would I take would depend on the nature of what I intended it for. Lots of modding and racing GT500, Just a cruiser or hot DD I'd take the CTSV. As far as IRS being better for Drag racing? Lol Tell that to my GTO. It handles smoother (not better) around corners than my Z28 but would get dusted off the line stock for stock and its a stick vs my Z's Auto. I go through tires much quicker on it even with TC always on (Z doesn't have TC). It takes less time to wear the inside edge of the rears than it did the centers on the Z, and I kept it sideways.

825LTRGT

Bottom line, the CTS-V is a beast.

The Z28 will be too.

And the Boss..well..duh!

We should enjoy it while it lasts!

bob

The IRS under pinning the goat is pretty archaic Slim, the IRS in the new Camaro is about a magnitude in improvement as the current 3 link in the Mustang is over the 4 link that underpinned the Fox/SN95/New Edge cars - okay maybe not that much, but its still a pretty old design, IIRC the IRS in the GTO was one of the last to be directly attatched to the body rather than ride in its own subframe.

Slims00ls1z28

Ya I'm aware, guess it was a little unfair comparing a 3700 lb car to a 3300 one as far as handling goes but I'd imagine both IRS designs react the same way taking off causing the tires to cant under body squat (which the GTO does real bad haven't seen it first hand in a new Camaro) putting more load on the inside of the tires than the center reducing take off grip.