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goat678 8/5/10 06:25 PM

2011 GT500 vs CTS-V Coupe
 
If posted already sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW-qF_Xzjl4

PCW 8/6/10 11:08 AM

OUCH !!! GT500 4.4 0-60 Vs 4.1 for the CTSV. Watch out for the new Z28. I would say that the CTSV weighs more than the Z28 will, GM's got to be loving this. C'mon Ford....

DaSFGiants4Life 8/6/10 11:38 AM

Firstly the shelby driver missed a shift.



Secondly. CTS V PADDLE SHIFTERS!!


Third of all the cadi is at least 10-13K MORE then the shelby.



You put at least 5 more grand into the shelby = WIN

PCW 8/6/10 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by DaSFGiants4Life (Post 5924714)
Firstly the shelby driver missed a shift.



Secondly. CTS V PADDLE SHIFTERS!!


Third of all the cadi is at least 10-13K MORE then the shelby.



You put at least 5 more grand into the shelby = WIN

My post isn't about the CTSV, I really don't care about that caparison, difference in price or missed shifts. It's about that motor that will go into the Z28. You know GM is going to throw everything they have into the new Zcar, now that the price threshold is 50K plus. I love this type of competition, it's a win/win for both sides.

pcw

SteedaGus 8/6/10 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by goat678 (Post 5924289)

The GT500 driver needs some driving lessons

DaSFGiants4Life 8/6/10 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by SteedaGus (Post 5924749)
The GT500 driver needs some driving lessons


:agree:



BIG TIME

Thomas S 8/6/10 01:47 PM

Look at the MPH.

20115.0 8/6/10 01:51 PM

^ yup, obviously the crappy start ruined the shelbys time

PCW 8/6/10 02:06 PM

To bad there was no track comparisons, I would have love to see how the GT500 solid axle did against the CTSV. I just can't wait for Ford to finally add the IRS, then you will be looking at a fully loaded GT500 for 60K.

94gt 8/6/10 02:06 PM

And the Shelby needs some bigger tires! It is tough to win when you can't get decent traction till 3rd gear.

4x4xFord 8/6/10 02:33 PM

CTS-V has launch control - huge benefit on 500+ hp cars. Give the Mustang a driver that can actually drive a manual, and it's interesting.

PCW 8/7/10 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by 94gt (Post 5924791)
And the Shelby needs some bigger tires! It is tough to win when you can't get decent traction till 3rd gear.


IRS would help in that department as well.

todd03blown 8/7/10 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by PCW (Post 5925103)
IRS would help in that department as well.

IRS is going to help in traction? off the line traction or cornering traction?

1 COBRA 8/7/10 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by PCW (Post 5925103)
IRS would help in that department as well.


No, it would not.

todd03blown 8/7/10 08:09 PM

[QUOTE=1 BULLITT;5925310]

Originally Posted by PCW (Post 5925103)
IRS would help in that department as well.[/quote

No, it would not.

Agree totally...I want to see what his answer was :).

1 COBRA 8/7/10 08:28 PM

With respect to the Mustang, any model, Ford builds a balanced car for those who wish to have some fun. Being track ready is not the same as being track competitive. That is why there is an aftermarket.

eric n 8/8/10 07:31 AM

This does speak well of the new z28 camaro. Same engine, less weight, Going to be great American Muscle. If it's better, then it's better. Just means ford will step up the Shelby. That said, I'm very happy with my new 5.0.

If the new Camaro beats the Shelby, I will simply look forward to watching the response from Ford. Who would have thunk the good old days of muscle cars is now??? I wonder how long it will last with the economy in the toilet and Greenies lurking trying to take away our fun.

FireDragon 8/8/10 07:46 AM

No excuses. If that auto and engine are in the Z28, the Z will win with average drivers stock. Ford needs to get a clue and put something wider than a 9.5 rim on the back. Worrying about lesser cars getting a jump on you because of excessive wheelspin sux! The aftermarket should be there to make your car faster, not to put it where it should have been from the start.

1trickpony 8/8/10 12:42 PM

I think all of this has been covered but:

Terminator owners would rip out the IRS for a SRA

The Cobra trapped higher so it will be faster with traction

A lot a car magazines cannot drive a GT500, Motor Trend being one of them

I doubt the Z28 will weigh less than a CTS-V, within 100 pounds?

We know Ford can easily upgrade the GT500 with a Whipple, 600 or 700 HP?

PCW 8/8/10 05:42 PM

IRS will help in ALL areas of traction, and if you think otherwise, your fooling yourself. Making HP for RWD cars is easy, getting it to the ground is the hard part. Just look at the best handling production cars, do you see a solid/live axle, no you don't, why is that??? If Ford wants to be taken seriously as a top sports car, they need to start concentrating on how to get that 550 HP to the ground, you shouldn't have to be a professional driver to do so !!! Anybody can throw a bunch of money at something to make it better but if your spending 50K+ why should you have to?

And far as the weight, everyone is talking about just 100 lbs. off the front-end of the 2011 GT500 because of the all aluminum block, being the main reason for the better handling. Wouldn't that also work for GM as well ???? With the recent photos of the Z28 testing against a GT500, GM is fine tuning the car, Ford better up their game or they will get their a$$es handed to them.

pcw


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