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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Wow, that was one emotional intro. Obama's the better speaker, but McCain portrays speaking from his heart.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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So now Mccain picked a woman VP. This is the worst election choices ever!
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 05GT-O.C.D.
Wow, that was one emotional intro. Obama's the better speaker, but McCain portrays speaking from his heart.
right on brother... listening now good stuff
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Did anyone watch The Daily Show last night?.....I was in tears!!!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...e-completes-us
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MBK
George man that's messed up... that is their tactic; just call with the parrot attacks they tell them to say... messed up brother, messed up
It's not only a tactic, it is their vision of the Patriot Act. The socialist version.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Will McCain announces VP today. Well he hit a home run with Palin...
You called it!

I heard a segment on the Laura Ingraham show a couple of weeks ago with very positive comments on Sarah Palin's behalf.

I had a chance to catch a great portion of today's speech and was very impressed. She seems to have a good head on her shoulders and what I liked best was there were no false promises just firm convictions.



Sarah Palin, John McCain’s vice presidential pick, became the first female governor of Alaska in 2006, as well as its youngest.
A 44-year-old mother of five, her anti-abortion stance is certain to appeal to evangelicals, while her views on the threats of climate change mirror McCain’s.


“Palin is becoming a star in the conservative movement, a fiscal conservative in a state that is looking like a boondoggle for pork-barrel spending,” Republican pollster Kellyanne Conway has said. “She’s young, vibrant, fresh and now, a new mother of five. She should be in the top tier. If the Republican Party wants to wrestle itself free from the perception that it is royalist and not open to putting new talent on the bench, this would be the real opportunity.”


Democrats will point out that she has no foreign policy credentials or experience, but her presence adds youth to a McCain ticket and her gender could help sway women, especially the “security moms” who helped President Bush win re-election in 2004, to vote GOP.
Born in Sandpoint, Idaho, on Feb. 11, 1964, Palin moved with her family at the age of three months to Wasilla, Alaska. She returned to her birth state to attend the University of Idaho, where she studied journalism and graduated in 1987 with a bachelor’s degree.

Palin is the mother of five children — Bristol, 17; Willow, 13; Piper, 7; Track, 18; and Trig, who was born in April with Down syndrome.

The governor is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association and a strong anti-abortion advocate. “We’ve both been very vocal about being pro-life,” she said of herself and her husband, Todd.


Palin grew up in Wasilla, just outside of Anchorage, played on Wasilla’s state champion girls’ basketball team in 1982, wore the crown of Miss Wasilla in 1984 and competed in the Miss Alaska contest.


She began her professional career as a television sports reporter, but after she married she helped run her husband’s family’s commercial fishing business. Other professional endeavors included the ownership of a snow machine, watercraft and all-terrain-vehicle business.

She ran for Wasilla City Council in 1992, winning her seat by opposing tax increases. Four years later, at age 32, she defeated a three-term incumbent to become mayor of Wasilla.


Palin conflicted with the city’s staff and administrators who had stood by her predecessor, leading opponents to call her “Sarah Barracuda,” reviving a nickname she earned on the basketball court for her fierce and adversarial style.


At the end of her second term, party leaders encouraged her to enter the 2002 race for lieutenant governor. Palin, running against veteran legislators with far more experience, finished second in the Republican primary by fewer than 2,000 votes, making a name for herself in statewide politics.


Frank Murkowski, elected governor in 2002, suffered politically from his decision to appoint his daughter as his Senate successor and for purchasing a state jet for his travel. A Republican, Murkowski also faced criticism that the natural gas pipeline deal that he had negotiated was a sweetheart deal with oil producers.


In 2006 Palin ran on ethics reform and trounced Murkowski in the GOP primary. She easily beat her Democratic opponent, former Gov. Tony Knowles, in the general election.


When she took office, she promised to reduce government spending, advance plans for a 1,715-mile natural gas pipeline and increase government accountability and transparency.


In her first year as governor of Alaska, Palin raised taxes on the oil industry, pushed through ethics legislation amid a burgeoning corruption investigation of Alaska lawmakers, bucked her party’s old guard and ordered her administration to seek fewer congressional earmarks after Alaska’s “bridge to nowhere” became a national symbol of pork-barrel spending.

Her popularity soared above 80 percent when she enacted an ethics bill and shelved pork-barrel projects by fellow Republicans.
Palin is currently the subject of a legislative probe, expected to be completed in November, of the firing of a state trooper who had gone through a messy divorce with Palin’s younger sister.

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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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And by horny college students you mean both straight males and lesbian women, right?
Afirmative. http://www.vpilf.com (SFW, for now)
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 05GT-O.C.D.


Tell me, as a boy in High School, what would've been your thoughts if she was teaching in your classroom.
To me, she is beautiful younger woman.
I think I am in love.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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I thought of Tia Carrera as soon as I seen her
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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I'm turned on that she's so hot and conservative. All is right with the world today. Maybe not tomorrow. Please dear God don't let some college frat boy have some topless video of her or something. It would destroy this election.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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If it's a frat boy it will be from the Obama camp. It is very likely for degrading to come and when it does Obama and Biden will pay with lost votes.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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[quote=2k7gtcs;5624196]Well McCain announces VP today. Well he hit a home run with Palin,

+ whatever!
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Another interesing article and our tax dollars at work:


Michelle's Boot Camps For Radicals


INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Posted 9/4/2008
Election '08: Democrats' reintroduction of militant Michelle Obama in Denver was supposed to show her softer side. But it only highlighted a radical part of her resume: Public Allies.

IBD Series: The Audacity Of Socialism

Barack Obama was a founding member of the board of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife became executive director of the Chicago chapter of Public Allies in 1993. Obama plans to use the nonprofit group, which he features on his campaign Web site, as the model for a national service corps. He calls his Orwellian program, "Universal Voluntary Public Service."

Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas. They plan to herd American youth into government-funded reeducation camps where they'll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of "social change."

The pitch Public Allies makes on its Web site doesn't seem all that radical. It promises to place young adults (18-30) in paid one-year "community leadership" positions with nonprofit or government agencies. They'll also be required to attend weekly training workshops and three retreats.

In exchange, they'll get a monthly stipend of up to $1,800, plus paid health and child care. They also get a post-service education award of $4,725 that can be used to pay off past student loans or fund future education.

But its real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about "social change" through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation — the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul "The Red" Alinsky.

"Our alumni are more than twice as likely as 18-34 year olds to . . . engage in protest activities," Public Allies boasts in a document found with its tax filings. It has already deployed an army of 2,200 community organizers like Obama to agitate for "justice" and "equality" in his hometown of Chicago and other U.S. cities, including Cincinnati, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, New York, Phoenix, Pittsburgh and Washington. "I get to practice being an activist," and get paid for it, gushed Cincinnati recruit Amy Vincent.

Public Allies promotes "diversity and inclusion," a program paper says. More than 70% of its recruits are "people of color." When they're not protesting, they're staffing AIDS clinics, handing out condoms, bailing criminals out of jail and helping illegal aliens and the homeless obtain food stamps and other welfare.

Public Allies brags that more than 80% of graduates have continued working in nonprofit or government jobs. It's training the "next generation of nonprofit leaders" — future "social entrepreneurs."

The Obamas discourage work in the private sector. "Don't go into corporate America," Michelle has exhorted youth. "Work for the community. Be social workers." Shun the "money culture," Barack added. "Individual salvation depends on collective salvation."

"If you commit to serving your community," he pledged in his Denver acceptance speech, "we will make sure you can afford a college education." So, go through government to go to college, and then go back into government.

Many of today's youth find the pitch attractive. "I may spend the rest of my life trying to create social movement," said Brian Coovert of the Cincinnati chapter. "There is always going to be work to do. Until we have a perfect country, I'll have a job."

Not all the recruits appreciate the PC indoctrination. "It was too touchy-feely," said Nelly Nieblas, 29, of the 2005 Los Angeles class. "It's a lot of talk about race, a lot of talk about sexism, a lot of talk about homophobia, talk about -isms and phobias."

One of those -isms is "heterosexism," which a Public Allies training seminar in Chicago describes as a negative byproduct of "capitalism, white supremacy, patriarchy and male-dominated privilege."

The government now funds about half of Public Allies' expenses through Clinton's AmeriCorps. Obama wants to fully fund it and expand it into a national program that some see costing $500 billion. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the military, he said.

The gall of it: The Obamas want to create a boot camp for radicals who hate the military — and stick American taxpayers with the bill.


http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...05420655186700
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Old Sep 5, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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Just one more reason it would be a big mistake to let these Marxists into the White House...
Of course its OK for Mickey O to have a job making $300K+...but you-to the Camps!!! What arrogance.


Originally Posted by 1 BULLITT
Another interesing article and our tax dollars at work:


Michelle's Boot Camps For Radicals


INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Posted 9/4/2008
Election '08: Democrats' reintroduction of militant Michelle Obama in Denver was supposed to show her softer side. But it only highlighted a radical part of her resume: Public Allies.

IBD Series: The Audacity Of Socialism

Barack Obama was a founding member of the board of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife became executive director of the Chicago chapter of Public Allies in 1993. Obama plans to use the nonprofit group, which he features on his campaign Web site, as the model for a national service corps. He calls his Orwellian program, "Universal Voluntary Public Service."

Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas. They plan to herd American youth into government-funded reeducation camps where they'll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of "social change."

The pitch Public Allies makes on its Web site doesn't seem all that radical. It promises to place young adults (18-30) in paid one-year "community leadership" positions with nonprofit or government agencies. They'll also be required to attend weekly training workshops and three retreats.

In exchange, they'll get a monthly stipend of up to $1,800, plus paid health and child care. They also get a post-service education award of $4,725 that can be used to pay off past student loans or fund future education.

But its real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about "social change" through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation — the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul "The Red" Alinsky.

"Our alumni are more than twice as likely as 18-34 year olds to . . . engage in protest activities," Public Allies boasts in a document found with its tax filings. It has already deployed an army of 2,200 community organizers like Obama to agitate for "justice" and "equality" in his hometown of Chicago and other U.S. cities, including Cincinnati, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, New York, Phoenix, Pittsburgh and Washington. "I get to practice being an activist," and get paid for it, gushed Cincinnati recruit Amy Vincent.

Public Allies promotes "diversity and inclusion," a program paper says. More than 70% of its recruits are "people of color." When they're not protesting, they're staffing AIDS clinics, handing out condoms, bailing criminals out of jail and helping illegal aliens and the homeless obtain food stamps and other welfare.

Public Allies brags that more than 80% of graduates have continued working in nonprofit or government jobs. It's training the "next generation of nonprofit leaders" — future "social entrepreneurs."

The Obamas discourage work in the private sector. "Don't go into corporate America," Michelle has exhorted youth. "Work for the community. Be social workers." Shun the "money culture," Barack added. "Individual salvation depends on collective salvation."

"If you commit to serving your community," he pledged in his Denver acceptance speech, "we will make sure you can afford a college education." So, go through government to go to college, and then go back into government.

Many of today's youth find the pitch attractive. "I may spend the rest of my life trying to create social movement," said Brian Coovert of the Cincinnati chapter. "There is always going to be work to do. Until we have a perfect country, I'll have a job."

Not all the recruits appreciate the PC indoctrination. "It was too touchy-feely," said Nelly Nieblas, 29, of the 2005 Los Angeles class. "It's a lot of talk about race, a lot of talk about sexism, a lot of talk about homophobia, talk about -isms and phobias."

One of those -isms is "heterosexism," which a Public Allies training seminar in Chicago describes as a negative byproduct of "capitalism, white supremacy, patriarchy and male-dominated privilege."

The government now funds about half of Public Allies' expenses through Clinton's AmeriCorps. Obama wants to fully fund it and expand it into a national program that some see costing $500 billion. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the military, he said.

The gall of it: The Obamas want to create a boot camp for radicals who hate the military — and stick American taxpayers with the bill.


http://www.investors.com/editorial/e...05420655186700

Last edited by Tiberius1701; Sep 5, 2008 at 11:02 PM. Reason: Added more opinion.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Might as well elect a member from an organized crime family.


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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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umadnow?
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