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I've had many GM cars. Worked on them for many years. The automatic option is just faster. GM builds a better trans than you can shift yourself. If the tap shift does what it is supposed to do, there's no way or reason someone would want the manual. Unless you just like clutching and going slower. Really if I could get a Ferrari auto tap shift trans in the cobra, I would do it in a heartbeat. I find no joy in clutching and shifting. I want to select the gear I want and never let up on the go pedal. If ford would only build an auto that doesn't make the car slower. From what I understand, Ford's auto trans is slowly getting better though. Going fast is fun for me. Shifting sucks.
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And a manual wagon? Really? So you can jerk the baby's head back and forth as you shift. [/quote]Well, if you drive a manual so badly that you'll give junior whiplash, then yes, perhaps a nice safe slushbox like Aunt Mabel drives in her Buick La Barge would be a better choice. Myself, I can drive a stick with creamy smoothness when daily driving.
Because if you're driving a wagon you better have kids for an excuse. Station wagons are not cool. [/quote]Yeah, like wheezing minvans and wallowing bloated SUVs are cool? I find a wagon with the performance stats of its sister hot sedan to be far cooler than some rolling bread box or SUV behemoth.
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Whatever all these responses mean, we're gonna have to agree to disagree. Station wagon is a station wagon. Cool them up all you want, you still suck in a wagon. I'm a fan of the big SUV's. Big safe sturdy powerful roomy. Not quite as convenient as a minivan if you have kids but, you also suck if you're driving a minivan.
Creamy smooth shifting means you're going slow. Buy a Camry.
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Some of us are fighting that desparately, perhaps futily. Being able to fold in high performance with high practicality would help slide such purchase past discerning wife trying to enforce male domestication.
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Whatever all these responses mean, we're gonna have to agree to disagree. Station wagon is a station wagon. Cool them up all you want, you still suck in a wagon. I'm a fan of the big SUV's. Big safe sturdy powerful roomy. Not quite as convenient as a minivan if you have kids but, you also suck if you're driving a minivan.
Creamy smooth shifting means you're going slow. Buy a Camry.
Creamy smooth shifting means you're going slow. Buy a Camry.
Big safe and sturdy, yes, but that also describes my house. A big sedan would certainly have enough room for me -- only one spawn -- and a wagon's extra space would be icing on the cake.
Any modern sedan is extremely safe and sturdy these days. In fact, SUV's aren't all that great in many safety measures because what they gain in secondary safety -- post-crash survival -- by sheer size and mass, they loose out by significantly worse in the more important aspect of primary safety --avoiding an accident in the first place -- i.e., they bumble into more accidents in the first place.
As for smooth shifts, not necessarily, I pride myself on being able to shift both smoothly and quickly, having practiced since about 8 years old (if you count farm tractors). Any monkey can do one OR the other, it takes real practice and finesse to pull off both.
As for Camry, nads have not fallen off yet.
In any case, I'm glad that Chevy is offering a hi-po RWD V8 sedan that is relatively affordable for a working stiff as an option to the now ubiquitous SUV -- only hope Ford steps to the plate too as they have similar vehicles down under too.
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I question whether Ford has something in the works or not. Or are they waiting to see how the SS plays out. For years they've said the demand simply isn't here in the US for cars like this. Perhaps if Ford see's it doing well, they'll jump on the bandwagon.
But typically a reactive approach isn't the best in business.
If they haven't reacted to the Charger yet, though. I doubt they'd jump on this.
But typically a reactive approach isn't the best in business.
If they haven't reacted to the Charger yet, though. I doubt they'd jump on this.
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I question whether Ford has something in the works or not. Or are they waiting to see how the SS plays out. For years they've said the demand simply isn't here in the US for cars like this. Perhaps if Ford see's it doing well, they'll jump on the bandwagon.
But typically a reactive approach isn't the best in business.
If they haven't reacted to the Charger yet, though. I doubt they'd jump on this.
But typically a reactive approach isn't the best in business.
If they haven't reacted to the Charger yet, though. I doubt they'd jump on this.
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I question whether Ford has something in the works or not. Or are they waiting to see how the SS plays out. For years they've said the demand simply isn't here in the US for cars like this. Perhaps if Ford see's it doing well, they'll jump on the bandwagon.
But typically a reactive approach isn't the best in business.
If they haven't reacted to the Charger yet, though. I doubt they'd jump on this.
But typically a reactive approach isn't the best in business.
If they haven't reacted to the Charger yet, though. I doubt they'd jump on this.
Would be great for those of us in a family way who would love to enjoy an affordable hi-po RWD sedan while meeting those hauling needs too. Ford has or will have all the bits and pieces necessary, here's to hoping they pull the trigger.
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Haven't they been been selling the police version for a year or so already (Caprice) ? Or is that a different vehicle from this one? I saw about 5 of them at a Chevy dealer early last year.
http://www.gmfleet.com/police/chevy-...atrol-car.html
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Originally Posted by rhumb
Probably true, though if Ford isn't doing one-model/market chassis any more, what spin-offs of the 2015 Mustang chassis await? I could readily see some desperately needed Lincoln coupe and/or sedan to compete with Caddy and the foreign upmarket brands, so perhaps a more affordable Ford (Galaxy?) spin-off wouldn't be too far fetched.
Would be great for those of us in a family way who would love to enjoy an affordable hi-po RWD sedan while meeting those hauling needs too. Ford has or will have all the bits and pieces necessary, here's to hoping they pull the trigger.
Would be great for those of us in a family way who would love to enjoy an affordable hi-po RWD sedan while meeting those hauling needs too. Ford has or will have all the bits and pieces necessary, here's to hoping they pull the trigger.
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Likewise. While I really liked the new Lincoln Mark Something-or-Another's interior, the outside was nice but a bit "meh" while the chassis/drivetrain were "MEH," certainly as compared with what most of the Caddies are running on. All very competent, just not terribly compelling, which is what Lincoln desperately needs.
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Station wagon is a station wagon. Cool them up all you want, you still suck in a wagon. I'm a fan of the big SUV's. Big safe sturdy powerful roomy. Not quite as convenient as a minivan if you have kids but, you also suck if you're driving a minivan.
Creamy smooth shifting means you're going slow. Buy a Camry.
Creamy smooth shifting means you're going slow. Buy a Camry.
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Nope. But big SUV's will jump a curb, pass through high water, and pull a big trailer. All with the family being safe and comfortable inside. And will totally crush a Camry in a collision.
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