SIDE AIRBAGS
G'Dale & Badandy,
If you have a problem with a staff member, please consult me directly. You both know how to get in touch with me.
Lets get this thread back on topic. One more "idiot" comment or anything similar and its closed.
If you have a problem with a staff member, please consult me directly. You both know how to get in touch with me.
Lets get this thread back on topic. One more "idiot" comment or anything similar and its closed.
This sounds a lot like the reasoning you used to hear a lot, but don't hear quite as much (for some reason...) about why people don't wear motorcycle helmets (I can hear better without it, I look cooler with windblown hair, etc...) or wearing bicycle helmets (I never wore one as a kid, I don't ride that fast...) or about wearing seatbelts (they might trap me in my vehicle if it crashes into a lake or starts on fire, I might be better off being thrown clear of the vehicle in a crash...) or about smoking cigarettes (I smoke the LIGHT variety, I plan to quit when I get older, I'm too old to quit...). Everyone makes their own choices in life; for me this one is easy. I encourage everyone to get airbags. I guess the odds are 95% of people will never have the need for sideairbags...I wish the best of luck to the other 5%.
Ok, so the airbags are in the seat, the sensor is in the door,
I do not want them period, the reason they are an option is...we still have the choice to make, nobody has mandated that anyone has to have them, as for me I have not chosen this OPTION, My dome, LOL and the rest of me has survived just fine without side airbags so far, I'll take my chances , as for the rest of you please, if you feel safer with the airbags by all means get the option, 300.00 is not alot of money to some of you I guess, but I think it's a waste. I would also recomend you wear you're seat belts, and brush up on you're driving skillz, mine are fine, and I wear seat belts, I am sure all of you flamers do not however, you must think the side air bag is a substitute or something, you are wrong period...Time will tell wether or not these air bags turn into an issue, but it will not be an issue for me...Good luck !!
I do not want them period, the reason they are an option is...we still have the choice to make, nobody has mandated that anyone has to have them, as for me I have not chosen this OPTION, My dome, LOL and the rest of me has survived just fine without side airbags so far, I'll take my chances , as for the rest of you please, if you feel safer with the airbags by all means get the option, 300.00 is not alot of money to some of you I guess, but I think it's a waste. I would also recomend you wear you're seat belts, and brush up on you're driving skillz, mine are fine, and I wear seat belts, I am sure all of you flamers do not however, you must think the side air bag is a substitute or something, you are wrong period...Time will tell wether or not these air bags turn into an issue, but it will not be an issue for me...Good luck !!
Wow. What reasoning, lol. Brush up on our driving skills? Yeah, what about the other people on the road? The best drivers can't always get out of the way of some idiot. And I, for one, do not think the side airbags are a subsitute for anything! They are, though, a supplement to everything else. But that's just me, the more peace of mind the better I feel. And good luck to you too!!! I think you'll need it more
I appreciate you're response Kevin, I hope you never need the air bags, in adittion I hope there are no flaws with the operating system etc...I truly do not feel they are a necessity, although I know many of you do, Again good luck with them... :bang:
Originally posted by JessicaRabbitt@March 15, 2005, 1:49 PM
Grantsdale and BaDandy:
I have said numerous times, as have others mods, we dont care if you disagree, what we dont want is you being rude about it. Do you think either one of you can do it?
I never said this thread was out of control, I said dont be rude. I never said that because I walked away from two that everyone will, I said I walked away. For two posters who brag about thier literacy, you two seem to miss the mark continually when it comes to me.
As for my car, there are several people who dont like it, and I am ok with that. There are several people who posted they dont like it, and no skin off my nose. What I dont want to see for me or any one else is "that is a POS, and I think should be taken to the wrecker". As for the threads that go like that with color etc, they do get stopped EVERYTIME, but you two fail to see it. Defensiveness? Not at all! I think maybe you are reading into it too much.
I never said not getting FSA was smart. You say I did.
Grantsdale you are absolutely 100% wrong. It is entirely possible to have disagreeing adults with out one bit of name calling. Show your intelligence and debating ability, and DONT CALL NAMEs. I bet you can do it. Read a few of Purple Haze's posts.
If you were going to ignore it, why comment on it? That is so typical YOU Grantsdale. The difference, because apparently you failed to see it, is that I called a thread stupid, and not the people. It disintegrated into YOU and others calling posters names. So, no, it is NOT hypocritical.
I am not bent out of shape that you disagree with me, I am bent out of shape because of your tone and attitude. Simple, really.
Badandy, I am not surprised one bit that you agree with Grantsdale. The two of you should start your own little club.
I have an idea, how about if we not get into a huge discussion over what you feel of me, and I will leave the two of you alone, and be done with it. How about if we get back on topic?
I dont see any real disadvantages of having FSA, I wanted them, and ended up without them. I am actually looking into getting them done aftermarket, since my daughter rides in the front seat now. I think the advantages are huge.
See how I did that Grantsdale and Badandy? Answered the question without flaming, its pretty easy. You two should try it.
As for mmoonshots question of seat bealts, with the 05, everytime. My husband I laugh at the car being a tattletale. I actually have come to depend on that little alarm, just because people do forget. HOWEVER, I stand by the opinion, that if you choose not to wear one, that is your choice, and I am not going to be a rude jerk about it.
Grantsdale and BaDandy:
I have said numerous times, as have others mods, we dont care if you disagree, what we dont want is you being rude about it. Do you think either one of you can do it?
I never said this thread was out of control, I said dont be rude. I never said that because I walked away from two that everyone will, I said I walked away. For two posters who brag about thier literacy, you two seem to miss the mark continually when it comes to me.
As for my car, there are several people who dont like it, and I am ok with that. There are several people who posted they dont like it, and no skin off my nose. What I dont want to see for me or any one else is "that is a POS, and I think should be taken to the wrecker". As for the threads that go like that with color etc, they do get stopped EVERYTIME, but you two fail to see it. Defensiveness? Not at all! I think maybe you are reading into it too much.
I never said not getting FSA was smart. You say I did.
Grantsdale you are absolutely 100% wrong. It is entirely possible to have disagreeing adults with out one bit of name calling. Show your intelligence and debating ability, and DONT CALL NAMEs. I bet you can do it. Read a few of Purple Haze's posts.
If you were going to ignore it, why comment on it? That is so typical YOU Grantsdale. The difference, because apparently you failed to see it, is that I called a thread stupid, and not the people. It disintegrated into YOU and others calling posters names. So, no, it is NOT hypocritical.
I am not bent out of shape that you disagree with me, I am bent out of shape because of your tone and attitude. Simple, really.
Badandy, I am not surprised one bit that you agree with Grantsdale. The two of you should start your own little club.
I have an idea, how about if we not get into a huge discussion over what you feel of me, and I will leave the two of you alone, and be done with it. How about if we get back on topic?
I dont see any real disadvantages of having FSA, I wanted them, and ended up without them. I am actually looking into getting them done aftermarket, since my daughter rides in the front seat now. I think the advantages are huge.
See how I did that Grantsdale and Badandy? Answered the question without flaming, its pretty easy. You two should try it.
As for mmoonshots question of seat bealts, with the 05, everytime. My husband I laugh at the car being a tattletale. I actually have come to depend on that little alarm, just because people do forget. HOWEVER, I stand by the opinion, that if you choose not to wear one, that is your choice, and I am not going to be a rude jerk about it.
Really. Where in this thread is there name calling exactly? I know I did not call anyone names, the only part that could be construed as such is when I said "now die" to someone because they couldn't listen to two pages of people telling them they were in the seats. I would like a quote of this "calling each other idiots".
I think that you are trying to be a bad *** because I replied a few times.
And if you are going to say that telling someone to be informed is name calling ... I pray for the future.
scothew, thanks for the offer but I can handle myself.
Originally posted by mmoonshot@March 15, 2005, 5:45 PM
I appreciate you're response Kevin, I hope you never need the air bags, in adittion I hope there are no flaws with the operating system etc...I truly do not feel they are a necessity, although I know many of you do, Again good luck with them... :bang:
I appreciate you're response Kevin, I hope you never need the air bags, in adittion I hope there are no flaws with the operating system etc...I truly do not feel they are a necessity, although I know many of you do, Again good luck with them... :bang:
Let me ask you one question: who is your insurance company? The reason I ask is because it might actually be cheaper to buy them.
Edit: Also, the sensor in the door is there regardless. It is the same sensor that is used for the passive or active-anti theft system.
I thought some of you might be interested in this info, found at http://www.news-medical.net/?id=3655:
"Occupants of automobiles involved in side-impact crashes are three times more likely to suffer a traumatic brain injury than people involved in head-on or other types of collisions, according to a University of Rochester study published online for the August edition of Annals of Emergency Medicine.
Lead author Jeffrey Bazarian, M.D., MPH, also found that brain injuries from side-impact crashes are usually more severe. Bazarian and colleagues analyzed a sample of all crashes reported by police to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) for the year 2000 to determine the relative risk for brain injuries. Bazarian is an attending physician in the Strong Memorial Hospital Emergency Department who has been studying several aspects of brain trauma. Three years ago the National Institutes of Health funded him to start the nation’s first Emergency Department-based registry of traumatic brain injuries.
Other key findings from the NHTSA analysis:
* Traumatic brain injury is the cause of death in 51 percent to 74 percent of single-vehicle side collisions, and 41 percent to 64 percent of multiple vehicle side-impact crashes.
* Better head protection could reduce all crash-related brain injuries by up to 61 percent, and fatal or critical brain injuries by up to 23.5 percent. In raw numbers, that would translate into 2,230 fewer deaths or critical injuries each year.
* Crashes on the side of a vehicle cause 10,000 deaths each year in the United States.
“We believe our study results are important for drivers, emergency responders, automakers and legislators, who rely on accurate information about the risks associated with motor vehicle crashes, Bazarian says. “If the sides of cars can be made as safe as the front, many fatal and non-fatal brain injuries could be prevented. Increasing the number of vehicles with side air bags that protect the head would be an important step in the right direction.â€"
"Occupants of automobiles involved in side-impact crashes are three times more likely to suffer a traumatic brain injury than people involved in head-on or other types of collisions, according to a University of Rochester study published online for the August edition of Annals of Emergency Medicine.
Lead author Jeffrey Bazarian, M.D., MPH, also found that brain injuries from side-impact crashes are usually more severe. Bazarian and colleagues analyzed a sample of all crashes reported by police to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) for the year 2000 to determine the relative risk for brain injuries. Bazarian is an attending physician in the Strong Memorial Hospital Emergency Department who has been studying several aspects of brain trauma. Three years ago the National Institutes of Health funded him to start the nation’s first Emergency Department-based registry of traumatic brain injuries.
Other key findings from the NHTSA analysis:
* Traumatic brain injury is the cause of death in 51 percent to 74 percent of single-vehicle side collisions, and 41 percent to 64 percent of multiple vehicle side-impact crashes.
* Better head protection could reduce all crash-related brain injuries by up to 61 percent, and fatal or critical brain injuries by up to 23.5 percent. In raw numbers, that would translate into 2,230 fewer deaths or critical injuries each year.
* Crashes on the side of a vehicle cause 10,000 deaths each year in the United States.
“We believe our study results are important for drivers, emergency responders, automakers and legislators, who rely on accurate information about the risks associated with motor vehicle crashes, Bazarian says. “If the sides of cars can be made as safe as the front, many fatal and non-fatal brain injuries could be prevented. Increasing the number of vehicles with side air bags that protect the head would be an important step in the right direction.â€"
Hey G'Dale, can you please only quote the pertinent aspects of the post you are replying to? It makes posts that much longer when trying to read them. Wasnt that a reason to shorten signatures?
Show me please where I was trying to be a bad ***. Actually, dont, I am done with this. It is not productive, and certainly adds nothing to the thread.
Show me please where I was trying to be a bad ***. Actually, dont, I am done with this. It is not productive, and certainly adds nothing to the thread.
Originally posted by Grantsdale@March 15, 2005, 4:30 PM
scothew, thanks for the offer but I can handle myself.
scothew, thanks for the offer but I can handle myself.
Take it to PM's. Keep it off my public forums. I have requested JR to do the same if you both wish for this conversation to continue.
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Originally posted by mmoonshot@March 15, 2005, 3:33 PM
Ok, so the airbags are in the seat, the sensor is in the door,
I do not want them period, the reason they are an option is...we still have the choice to make, nobody has mandated that anyone has to have them, as for me I have not chosen this OPTION, My dome, LOL and the rest of me has survived just fine without side airbags so far, I'll take my chances , as for the rest of you please, if you feel safer with the airbags by all means get the option, 300.00 is not alot of money to some of you I guess, but I think it's a waste. I would also recomend you wear you're seat belts, and brush up on you're driving skillz, mine are fine, and I wear seat belts, I am sure all of you flamers do not however, you must think the side air bag is a substitute or something, you are wrong period...Time will tell wether or not these air bags turn into an issue, but it will not be an issue for me...Good luck !!

Ok, so the airbags are in the seat, the sensor is in the door,
I do not want them period, the reason they are an option is...we still have the choice to make, nobody has mandated that anyone has to have them, as for me I have not chosen this OPTION, My dome, LOL and the rest of me has survived just fine without side airbags so far, I'll take my chances , as for the rest of you please, if you feel safer with the airbags by all means get the option, 300.00 is not alot of money to some of you I guess, but I think it's a waste. I would also recomend you wear you're seat belts, and brush up on you're driving skillz, mine are fine, and I wear seat belts, I am sure all of you flamers do not however, you must think the side air bag is a substitute or something, you are wrong period...Time will tell wether or not these air bags turn into an issue, but it will not be an issue for me...Good luck !!
Grantsdale and BaDandy:
I have said numerous times, as have others mods, we dont care if you disagree, what we dont want is you being rude about it. Do you think either one of you can do it?
I have said numerous times, as have others mods, we dont care if you disagree, what we dont want is you being rude about it. Do you think either one of you can do it?
I wasn't being rude either. I really don't want to argue about this, but you have left me no choice. I merely stated my opinion bluntly. That's not being rude. I didn't say mmoonshot was the most stupid person on the planet, I just said it was ridiculous not to get side airbags in my opinion.
I never said this thread was out of control, I said dont be rude. I never said that because I walked away from two that everyone will, I said I walked away. For two posters who brag about thier literacy, you two seem to miss the mark continually when it comes to me.
As for my car, there are several people who dont like it, and I am ok with that. There are several people who posted they dont like it, and no skin off my nose. What I dont want to see for me or any one else is "that is a POS, and I think should be taken to the wrecker". As for the threads that go like that with color etc, they do get stopped EVERYTIME, but you two fail to see it. Defensiveness? Not at all! I think maybe you are reading into it too much.
I never said not getting FSA was smart. You say I did.
Grantsdale you are absolutely 100% wrong. It is entirely possible to have disagreeing adults with out one bit of name calling. Show your intelligence and debating ability, and DONT CALL NAMEs. I bet you can do it. Read a few of Purple Haze's posts.
If you were going to ignore it, why comment on it? That is so typical YOU Grantsdale.
The difference, because apparently you failed to see it, is that I called a thread stupid, and not the people. It disintegrated into YOU and others calling posters names. So, no, it is NOT hypocritical.
The difference, because apparently you failed to see it, is that I called a thread stupid, and not the people. It disintegrated into YOU and others calling posters names. So, no, it is NOT hypocritical.
Badandy, I am not surprised one bit that you agree with Grantsdale. The two of you should start your own little club.
I have an idea, how about if we not get into a huge discussion over what you feel of me, and I will leave the two of you alone, and be done with it. How about if we get back on topic?
I dont see any real disadvantages of having FSA, I wanted them, and ended up without them. I am actually looking into getting them done aftermarket, since my daughter rides in the front seat now. I think the advantages are huge.
See how I did that Grantsdale and Badandy? Answered the question without flaming, its pretty easy. You two should try it.
HOWEVER, I stand by the opinion, that if you choose not to wear one, that is your choice, and I am not going to be a rude jerk about it.
That's how I roll <--------yes, I just said that.
Can we move on from our differences Jessica. You have a trip evertime we type something. I want to get along with you, so please, stop hating us. Im done with this response.
EDIT: Wow, why aren't my quote tags working. And scotthew, I would consult Jessica Rabbit directly, but she turned of pm's because she got into an arguement with me and over reacted. Feel free to do whatever you want with this, but please read it.
Wow, you people that have your cars should be happy. What about us that don't and are vehicular frustrated? We have to come on here for our satisifaction, to get by, and we have to read things like all this arguing. Can't we all just get along and realize who the real enemies are out there, Chevy. Pontiac and the Rice.
Originally posted by Scothew@March 15, 2005, 4:44 PM
Take it to PM's. Keep it off my public forums. I have requested JR to do the same if you both wish for this conversation to continue.
Take it to PM's. Keep it off my public forums. I have requested JR to do the same if you both wish for this conversation to continue.
This wasnt just for Grantsdale. This applies to all. Including you Badandy. Consider this closed.

Have a problem with me closing this, PM me. And Scothew has one T.
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