2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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Can anyone confirm weather or not they are in the seat ?..
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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I could let you know one disadvantage ... you get no discount on insurance , I opted not to get them as none of my previous/current cars have them now.

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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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I thought they were in the doors as well, unable to confirm as of yet though... :scratch:
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by mmoonshot@March 11, 2005, 3:36 PM
I thought they were in the doors as well, unable to confirm as of yet though... :scratch:
mmoonshot ... side CURTAIN airbags are usually along the top of the window or along the seat bealt pillar, side airbags usually deploy from the door (should say something unless it doesn't (usually engraved sometimes very small IMO), hope this helps .

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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Dudes, they're in the sides of the seats! There is a tag sticking out of the seat that shows this!
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by E-Rock@March 11, 2005, 4:29 PM
PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong...

I thought the Institute of Highway safety just tested a bunch of cars with side airbags and only one (an import I think) showed any decrease in driver/passenger injuries. Basically, the idea is nice and the potential is great but the logistics aren't there yet. But I would assume almost anything would help. Just reducing the amont of glass flying at you would be beneficial.

As for "with it, you live, with out it, you die"... now that's a stretch. I know we are talking about side airbags and front airbags increase survival rates and decrease injuries but people have been hurt (or worse) because of front air bags deploying and those without have walked without a scratch in similar accidents. The same could be said for side airbags.

That all being said, I think it's worth the upgrade.
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety tests that were all over the news last week proved that the side air bags were saving the dummies from serious head injuries about 4/5 times. That is: without them, all five times you would have head injuries; with them, four out of the five you would not have the serious head injuries. The study concluded that all those cars except for one were not safe in SUV collisions unless they had the airbags.

Also, the "injured when they could have walked away" argument is bogus. There is no possible way to prove that. And the same CANNOT be said for side airbags, because they do not REPEAT do not directly contact you when they deploy. They fill the areas between the seat and the door, and prevent you from contacting the door. They aren't like front air bags where they pop into you. Another misconception that you seem to have is that the side airbags on the stang are side curtain airbags. They are not. They do not deploy to cover the window, and come out of the seat and deploy next to you to cover your body. Safer for body contact, but will not help with glass too much.

Next time you want to post an opinion, make it at least somewhat accurate.
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by 05WindveilGT+March 11, 2005, 4:41 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(05WindveilGT @ March 11, 2005, 4:41 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-mmoonshot@March 11, 2005, 3:36 PM
I thought they were in the doors as well, unable to confirm as of yet though... :scratch:
mmoonshot ... side CURTAIN airbags are usually along the top of the window or along the seat bealt pillar, side airbags usually deploy from the door (should say something unless it doesn't (usually engraved sometimes very small IMO), hope this helps .

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Yes, they are in the seats. Placement on the door would be near impossible for the airbag to deploy and be beneficial.
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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I was told by the VW dealer when we bought one of our cars that they put them in the seat because the seat moves with you during a crash and it doesn't matter where the position of the seat is in relation to the door (as in my short legs require me to drive with the seat pushed forward, tall hubby puts it all the way back). It still doesn't answer whether they are in the door or on the seat question though.
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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[quote=E-Rock,March 11, 2005, 3:29 PM]
PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong...

I thought the Institute of Highway safety just tested a bunch of cars with side airbags and only one (an import I think) showed any decrease in driver/passenger injuries. Basically, the idea is nice and the potential is great but the logistics aren't there yet. But I would assume almost anything would help. Just reducing the amont of glass flying at you would be beneficial.

As for "with it, you live, with out it, you die"... now that's a stretch. I know we are talking about side airbags and front airbags increase survival rates and decrease injuries but people have been hurt (or worse) because of front air bags deploying and those without have walked without a scratch in similar accidents. The same could be said for side airbags.

That all being said, I think it's worth the upgrade.


If my father had side air bags in his car he would be alive today. A Ford Focus ran a red light and broad sided him in his crown vic. Broke every rib on his left side in two places. He died in the hospital a week later, the driver of the focus was out of the hospital the same day.

Your off base on the crash test results Google "Side air bag crash test results" http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosinsider/0...utos-195811.htm
My sister and mother drive suburu foresters just for their front and side crash test ratings. Last year it was one the few cars to score 5 stars for both front and side impact. The only cars to recieve the highest rating for side impact (5 stars) have side air bags. Everyone in our family now will not even consider buying a car without them. Usually they are part of the seat, not the door.

As Clint Eastwood said in Dirty Harry "Do you feel lucky today" because luck is all you got without a side airbag. I'd gladly pay the $300 cost to have my father back.
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Well, I guess we have an answer. Thanks, Grantsdale!
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by Grantsdale@March 11, 2005, 2:45 PM
Next time you want to post an opinion, make it at least somewhat accurate.
Grantsdale... Keeping the average poster honest.
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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For the cost, I will take any extra protection for a few more bucks a month. Can't hurt, can only help. That is my OPINION.
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Ok, I think the seat wins, but I still have some doubt, some say door some say seat...

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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by kcrw898@March 11, 2005, 4:51 PM
For the cost, I will take any extra protection for a few more bucks a month. Can't hurt, can only help. That is my OPINION.
Yes, you are correct. Its very simple. They cost about $300. They may save your life in a crash. They may not. However, if you don't have them, you know for a fact that they won't.

Oh, and the reason I replied in the first place was to say "GJ at stealing my reply to these threads, rags."
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by mmoonshot@March 11, 2005, 4:52 PM
Ok, I think the seat wins, but I still have some doubt, some say door some say seat...

:scratch:
They are in the seat. Period. End of conversation. Whoever says differently is wrong. I can go out to my car and take a freakin picture, but I don't need to prove myself right, I know that I am.
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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IT'S THE SEAT!!!!! Look at photos, there is a tag on the side of the seat saying "AIRBAG" Geez, how the heck would it come out of the door? LOL
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by mmoonshot@March 11, 2005, 2:52 PM
Ok, I think the seat wins, but I still have some doubt, some say door some say seat...

:scratch:
They are in the seat as stated by the last few posters.
Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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I think a picture would be perfect, obviously there are many enthusiasts here as well as myself that have absolutely no clue.

Old Mar 11, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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They are definitley in the seat. I just looked at the shop manual.....



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