PCM crapped out - Dealer is NOT making me happy
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That price is nuts! Dealer = $$
Give these guys a call and see what they say.
http://www.fordecu.com/?gclid=CN6jrI...FdA65QodFRg-rw
Give these guys a call and see what they say.
http://www.fordecu.com/?gclid=CN6jrI...FdA65QodFRg-rw
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That price is nuts! Dealer = $$
Give these guys a call and see what they say.
http://www.fordecu.com/?gclid=CN6jrI...FdA65QodFRg-rw
Give these guys a call and see what they say.
http://www.fordecu.com/?gclid=CN6jrI...FdA65QodFRg-rw
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I hear ya Tommy. A lot of dealerships used to offer loaner cars just as long as the car was purchased from and being serviced at the dealer. I don't see that much anymore. I could be wrong, but I don't think there's anything in the warranty anyways about getting a rental car... is there? My understanding is that it's usually just done for customer service reasons. Correct?
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Well here's the update.... The part arrived early - came in yesterday, and I got the car back last night. (THANK GOD!)
It all worked out - Ford got the new PCM in the car, and everything is was working okay. (no more codes). However, I told them not to drive it since it has the JLT intake in there with a factory tune (no bueno!) - and it needs the almighty RET tune to run correctly! (Racers Edge Tuning - Downey, CA)
So they didn't want to upload the SCT tune at the dealership since they weren't familiar with that type of tuner. I told them to button it up, and when I got there I'd plug in the SCT myself. So I uploaded the RET tune again, and the car fired right up stronger than ever!
Now the fun part - Greg (RET) was right in the fact that the TB took a crap. The problem is that when it took a crap it shorted out, and blew the pin on the PCM. Luckily I saved my stock TB so I was able to drop that off at Ford and they swapped them. They said that when they tested the GMS throttle body, it was sending out all sorts of either low voltage, or it would freak out and send a voltage spike as well. They think this was slowly killing the PCM which was causing my rough idle conditions and hard starting. All of that is gone now!
As soon as they got the new TB in, and I updated the new PCM with the RET tune, the car fired right up with more power than it had in June when Greg tuned it! The whole car feels so much stronger now! I can't wait to get it on the dyno again, and see if it breaks the 300rwhp mark!
(I'm wondering if the reason it only pulled 293 in June is the ****ty TB acting up)
But anyway... BBBIIIGGGG thanks to Greg for all his help on Monday trouble shooting everything with me on the phone all day! Now I just gotta save up for my headers again - so I can have him re-tune for those and some CMDPs!
-Tommy
It all worked out - Ford got the new PCM in the car, and everything is was working okay. (no more codes). However, I told them not to drive it since it has the JLT intake in there with a factory tune (no bueno!) - and it needs the almighty RET tune to run correctly! (Racers Edge Tuning - Downey, CA)
So they didn't want to upload the SCT tune at the dealership since they weren't familiar with that type of tuner. I told them to button it up, and when I got there I'd plug in the SCT myself. So I uploaded the RET tune again, and the car fired right up stronger than ever!
Now the fun part - Greg (RET) was right in the fact that the TB took a crap. The problem is that when it took a crap it shorted out, and blew the pin on the PCM. Luckily I saved my stock TB so I was able to drop that off at Ford and they swapped them. They said that when they tested the GMS throttle body, it was sending out all sorts of either low voltage, or it would freak out and send a voltage spike as well. They think this was slowly killing the PCM which was causing my rough idle conditions and hard starting. All of that is gone now!
As soon as they got the new TB in, and I updated the new PCM with the RET tune, the car fired right up with more power than it had in June when Greg tuned it! The whole car feels so much stronger now! I can't wait to get it on the dyno again, and see if it breaks the 300rwhp mark!
(I'm wondering if the reason it only pulled 293 in June is the ****ty TB acting up)
But anyway... BBBIIIGGGG thanks to Greg for all his help on Monday trouble shooting everything with me on the phone all day! Now I just gotta save up for my headers again - so I can have him re-tune for those and some CMDPs!
-Tommy
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So, your aftermarket TB from GMS was the cause of your PCM failure? And you were mad at the dealer (and Ford?) because they wouldn't do you any favors on the cost to fix it or a loaner car?
Anyway, I'm glad that your car is fixed and stronger than ever! Go out and enjoy, get back to the dyno, and let us know if you're over the 300 rwhp mark yet!
Anyway, I'm glad that your car is fixed and stronger than ever! Go out and enjoy, get back to the dyno, and let us know if you're over the 300 rwhp mark yet!
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My gripe was never with the part failing (although it sucked it happened right out of warranty). Now that they showed me what the GMS TB was doing, and that it was the TB that caused the PCM failure, I understand it won't be covered at all . That's the risk we take with aftermarket parts I guess.
Car hits the dyno tomorrow - I'll let you know if it picked up anything on paper! (The butt dyno is definitely feeling an increase! haha)
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I was going to say a short somewhere or bad ground. Then read more and more, and you got it going again.
Then I was going to say GMS = crap. Then an aftermarket TB on a N/A car is a waste of money.
One of the 1st times I ever said this, but I side with the dealer on this case.
All in all, I'm glad the car is up and running!
Then I was going to say GMS = crap. Then an aftermarket TB on a N/A car is a waste of money.
One of the 1st times I ever said this, but I side with the dealer on this case.
All in all, I'm glad the car is up and running!
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Glad you got your car up and going again. But I seriously question the cost you quoted in your first post. I have replaced my PCM twice. Once because it original crapped out, and once when I swapped from a standard transmission to an automatic. Neither time did it cost me a thousand dollars.
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Do the pcm part numbers have to match can I put a 09 pcm in a 08
Glad you got your car up and going again. But I seriously question the cost you quoted in your first post. I have replaced my PCM twice. Once because it original crapped out, and once when I swapped from a standard transmission to an automatic. Neither time did it cost me a thousand dollars.
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