well if theres a 6 speed in the GT350 people are gona want it

 

Sunday(2/27/05) a Ford Rep. at the Cleveland Auto Show told me that the Cobra will be out in mid 2006(2007MY) and a SE/Mach1 will be out in 07 or 08. Take it for what its worth!

 

Any specifics on an SE? Mach 1, BOSS, Bullitt?

 

I've been saying this all along. :scratch:

 

Someone seriously needs to spank you. "True enthusiasts..."? You mean like you? Yeah, cause you've done so much for Mustang history, and Carol's late 60s Shelbys did nothing for Mustang history.

At the absolute least, the Shelby name on the car will greatly increase its resale value in the future, not to mention its prestige.

"Shelby by SVT" sounds good to me!

 

I find it ironic that the people who don't want a new Shelby at all don't realize that there would have never been any Cobra at all if it weren't for that man.

 

I'm with you guys. Shelby has done a lot for Mustangs and deserves to be recognized for that. The retro theme is the perfect venue for that. I don't necessarily think it needs to replace the Cobra, but, there is room for a Shelby in the lineup.

 

I'll agree with the above comments, but I feel the need to play the devil's advocate. By adding his name to a Mustang, Shelby is just adding expense. I bet if they came out with a Mustang that only added the mods that his original '65 had (intake, tach, hood, stripes, etc.) and the car didn't say Shelby 1/2 the people on this board would be screaming "RICE!"
And lets not forget that Mr. Shelby has not always been a team player at Ford. Anyone remember the '84 GT350?
I suppose if you are going to try to keep the car as a collectible then his name adds to the value somewhere down the road. But most people want to drive a car like this, not store it.
I can't wait for the NYIAS so we can get some definitive answers.

BTW 66 did you get any answers with Shelby Mustang vs GT500 vs Shelby Mustang SVT or just Cobra as a title for the car?

 

I just want some valid info! I am sitting around with my hands in my pockets, because I do not know if I am going to buy a Cobra, SE or another Mustang GT.

 

Someone seriously needs to spank you. "True enthusiasts..."? You mean like you? Yeah, cause you've done so much for Mustang history, and Carol's late 60s Shelbys did nothing for Mustang history.

At the absolute least, the Shelby name on the car will greatly increase its resale value in the future, not to mention its prestige.

"Shelby by SVT" sounds good to me!
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Robert, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I simply stated mine. You are obviously a fan of Shelby which is entirely your right. However, don't personally assault someone else on this board for sharing their OPINION.

I would just hate to see SVT throw away 11 years of performance excellent and name recognition just to appease Shelby. Ford should continue offering the Cobra with a Shelby offering alongside. Just as wsmatau pointed out, by adding his name to the Mustang, Shelby is just adding expense.

 

I wouldn't mind Ford doing an SE as a tribute to Shelby, but for SVT to "just throw away 11 years of performance excellece just to appease Shelby" would be kind of a fatal decision on their part marketing wise, because we all know anything with the old man's name on it will be very pricey and if the so-called "Shelby Mustang Cobra" were to be the top-dog in the line up and expected to sell in large volumes, then it would turn away most potential buyers, such as myself, because I would not consider it wise to spend close to $70K for a mustang with the Shelby name on it. For that kind of money I would rather get an 06 Zo6 or a Viper. I would rather see a sub-$45K SVT Cobra that'll have the same options and performance without the exclusivity of "owning a Shelby." Just my $.02

 

[/quote]I wouldn't mind Ford doing an SE as a tribute to Shelby, but for SVT to "just throw away 11 years of performance excellece just to appease Shelby" would be kind of a fatal decision on their part marketing wise, because we all know anything with the old man's name on it will be very pricey and if the so-called "Shelby Mustang Cobra" were to be the top-dog in the line up and expected to sell in large volumes, then it would turn away most potential buyers, such as myself, because I would not consider it wise to spend close to $70K for a mustang with the Shelby name on it. For that kind of money I would rather get an 06 Zo6 or a Viper. I would rather see a sub-$45K SVT Cobra that'll have the same options and performance without the exclusivity of "owning a Shelby." Just my $.02
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Umm, not meant as any kind of a slap, but.....they aren't "appeasing Shelby". Ford signed him up. Secondly, do you really think that Ford would slap a Shelby badge on there and mark it up $35k? C'mon...

 

My guess is that they are going to have the Cobra in the $40 - 45k range, followed by an SE in the $ 32 - 35k range.

 

No offense taken, but you have to consider the fact that a Shelby mustang or any S.E. for that matter with some cosmetic changes and a little performance tweaks, would be more expensive than any factory mustang. It's a little more than just slapping on a badge because it will definetely be an outstanding performer, but the "Shelby" name alone will definitely tip the scales a bit as far as cost. If in 9 days there actually is going to be a new Shelby, I probably would only expect it to be sold in limited numbers, which is why it would also make it more expensive. These are just things to consider so I don't really want to start an argument here, just a little friendly voicing out of opinions. We'll just have to wait and see when this 07 SVT/Shelby mustang comes into production to better understand what the price will be.

 

If your only criteria for a performance car is simply horsepower, then a qood question indeed. If, however, you take a far broader perspective to performance than just stoplight squirt, I could imagine many things:

Better power (presuming deep-breathing 4V heads, more top end)
Better gearing (presuming a tight 6spd MTX)
Better brakes (presuming a nice set of Brembos or Brembo-scale brakes)
Better handling (presuming an uprated (IRS?) suspension with bigger wheels/tires)
Better control (presuming improved interior appointments such as deep-bolster sports seats)
Better aesthetics (presuming some unique body trim and colors)

So as you can see, the Stang can be improved hugely outside of the narrow confines of the HP box on the spec sheet. A real advantage, too, over the aftermarket approach, is a full warrenty. Of course, as noted above, all this presumes a lot, and the devil lies in the details of execution. Should a Shelby GT350 (or whatever they would end up calling it) came kitted out like this, I'd sure fork up $5K in a New York minute. But look at all the goodies Mitsu and Subaru pack into their ~$30K EVO and STi's for those who might think such a well contented Stang can't be done for ~$30K (though whether FORD can/will do that for $30K is another matter...)

 

Robert, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I simply stated mine. You are obviously a fan of Shelby which is entirely your right. However, don't personally assault someone else on this board for sharing their OPINION.

I would just hate to see SVT throw away 11 years of performance excellent and name recognition just to appease Shelby. Ford should continue offering the Cobra with a Shelby offering alongside. Just as wsmatau pointed out, by adding his name to the Mustang, Shelby is just adding expense.
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And in the spirit of being entitled to an opinion, my opinion was that someone ought to spank you!

People, people, people, c'mon, read your history! What makes you think that a GT350 or GT500 is NOT a Cobra? IT IS A COBRA, folks. Take a look at the attached picture below from 1967. You can have Shelby...GT500...and the Cobra moniker ALL AT THE SAME TIME. The only thing that wasn't part of the equation was the SVT name. Enter: "Shelby GT500 by SVT"

Seems simple enough to me...and my quess as to exactly what will happen.

 

WHat the guy at the autoshow said was that it will be SVT with the Cobra and Shelby name in it somehow or another. He said that the 350 is in the works, but dosn't sound like anything will be at the NY autoshow. He also said there's going to be another Mustang similar to the Mach from a couple years back. Maybe this is where that GT/CS trademark comes into play. I just hope we do get some decent answers along with timeframes.

 

You said something about sequential taillights - did you mean long horizontal bars like on the concept froma couple of years ago (or like the late '60s Shelbys) or did you mean a sequentially blinking tri-bar like on the current GTs?

 

He showed me a pic of the long horizontal bars. He said Ford really wants the retro look. Didn't the gt500 back in the late 60's have the long bars?

 

Yeah they did (well aleast the 68 did) I belive it had six lights on each side.