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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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How long does the average set of tires last (properly inflated)? Because I'm pretty sure that there's a number of Mustang owners on these boards who keep their tires properly inflated, yet still seem to run out of tread before the average lifetime of a tire. If you have a garage queen and do not use your car like most of us do, N2 might be beneficial from the standpoint of corrosiveness. But other than that, for people that regularly put gas in their cars (most gas stations have air compressors) and check their air pressure, the benefits are not nearly worth the dollar amount spent on them. Even gas stations that charge for air ($0.75 most places around here) that's still nearly 6 years worth of air, at one use per month. How many sets of tires are going to last longer than that anyways?
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Thumbs down There are no tangible advantages to justify spending even a penny on Nitrogen

NONE

THAT is my point exactly!

The oxidization from the inside out is an absolute NON-Issue.

Depending on your geographical location, oxidization from the outside is a non issue too. I have one set of BF Goodrich Radial TA's from 1984, they have spent their entire life mounted on cars outside here in the Pacific Northwest. Oxidization from the inside or outside hasn't killed them yet. I have 4 original tires on my 1994 RV trailer that sits outside. They hold their pressure for years at a time. and are still serviceable. Yes I do regular 300+ mile trips with it, the trailer weighs more than a Mustang, and the tires see much more sever duty. UV rays (from the outside) are truly a much bigger issue than oxidization.


The wheel corrosion is an absolute NON-Issue.

As to corrosion of the wheels, that is simply silly. Farmers have been running tubeless tractor tires with calcium chloride (saline & water solution) in them for weight for decades. You can't get much more corrosive than that. The wheels almost always still outlive the tractor. A little oxygen and moisture isn't going to destroy your Mustang wheels. I had occation to dismount one of the four aluminum Centerline wheels with the BFG tires from 1984 a few years ago, nail hole repair. They still look much better inside than they do on the outside.


If you check your air pressure even only 4 times a year, the minor difference in air pressure loss is a total NON-Issue.

Every single other benefit touted by the nitrogen hucksters and their enamored followers are identical to the exact same benefits you achieve by keeping your tires properly inflated with plain old air.

It is an absolute shame so many people have more money than common sense, when we are only talking about $40-$90 you see how pathetic that really is.



Originally Posted by Enfynet
How long does the average set of tires last (properly inflated)? Because I'm pretty sure that there's a number of Mustang owners on these boards who keep their tires properly inflated, yet still seem to run out of tread before the average lifetime of a tire. If you have a garage queen and do not use your car like most of us do, N2 might be beneficial from the standpoint of corrosiveness. But other than that, for people that regularly put gas in their cars (most gas stations have air compressors) and check their air pressure, the benefits are not nearly worth the dollar amount spent on them. Even gas stations that charge for air ($0.75 most places around here) that's still nearly 6 years worth of air, at one use per month. How many sets of tires are going to last longer than that anyways?
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Black GT500
It is an absolute shame so many people have more money than common sense, when we are only talking about $40-$90 you see how pathetic that really is.
its none of your business what people spend there money on, if they benefit from nitrofill and want to spend the money let them. worry about your own money.

What are you, the worlds financial advisor?
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Enfynet
How long does the average set of tires last (properly inflated)? Because I'm pretty sure that there's a number of Mustang owners on these boards who keep their tires properly inflated, yet still seem to run out of tread before the average lifetime of a tire. If you have a garage queen and do not use your car like most of us do, N2 might be beneficial from the standpoint of corrosiveness. But other than that, for people that regularly put gas in their cars (most gas stations have air compressors) and check their air pressure, the benefits are not nearly worth the dollar amount spent on them. Even gas stations that charge for air ($0.75 most places around here) that's still nearly 6 years worth of air, at one use per month. How many sets of tires are going to last longer than that anyways?
I (of course) agree.
Remember though,that in a really humid climate it may be easier to use nitrogen that to find dry air.
It is the water that causes the most problems with air pressure (when vapor condenses).
Around here,this time of year all we have is dry air.
I ran my compressor for a full hour yesterday (motor running almost continuously) and when I dumped the air out of the tank after use there was not even one drop of water.

Speaking as an experienced garage queen owner I like to change my tires every 10 to 12 years no matter what the tread looks like (refer to my previously posted experience). My cars live in an environment that never sees freezing or extreme heat (42 to 78 degrees). The amount of corrosion in 10 years is almost nothing anywhere on the car. The insides of the rims look like new (remember that they were filled with fairly dry air). So as you would expect me to say, I feel there is no reason to put nitrogen in my garage queens.
If I haven't bored you with my opinion yet...
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Another old man story...

Originally Posted by classix_stang289
its none of your business what people spend there money on, if they benefit from nitrofill and want to spend the money let them. worry about your own money.

What are you, the worlds financial advisor?
My marriage counselor came up with this line:
The people in the world are like a river full of canoes, you can't make the others paddle the way you want them to. You must learn to allow others to make their own mistakes and learn from them. Don't worry about what other people do.
I told him:
Yeah, but if I see we are all headed for Niagara Falls I am darn sure that I will yell as loud as I can to try to get them to follow me and paddle upstream.
This is not a Niagara Falls situation, but I'm sure you get the point of the parable.
He is just trying to help. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be helping you in particular.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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It's not just "air" that you get for 50 bucks!

We can debate this subject untill our tires go flat! What I received for my money was also free towing, cash reimbursement for expenses and other perks. Insurance for travel for as long as I own the vehicle . Triple A is more than that and you only get that for 1 year, then next year you pay again!
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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You don't have a clue

What are you learning disabled?

Originally Posted by classix_stang289
its none of your business what people spend there money on, if they benefit from nitrofill and want to spend the money let them. worry about your own money.

What are you, the worlds financial advisor?
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Black GT500
What are you learning disabled?
no, last time i checked i was fine. i have a "learning disabled" family member so to say, so i would watch what you say next.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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Simply Bazaar

This post sounds like you admit your money spent on nitrogen didn't really garner any of the falsely touted "nitrogen benefits", but you are garnering a whole other set of common road hazard benefits that the average auto insurance police gives you for $4 a year?

This makes your position seem even more disingenuous...

Simply bazaar.

Originally Posted by red pony
We can debate this subject untill our tires go flat! What I received for my money was also free towing, cash reimbursement for expenses and other perks. Insurance for travel for as long as I own the vehicle . Triple A is more than that and you only get that for 1 year, then next year you pay again!
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by karman
My marriage counselor came up with this line:
The people in the world are like a river full of canoes, you can't make the others paddle the way you want them to. You must learn to allow others to make their own mistakes and learn from them. Don't worry about what other people do.
I told him:
Yeah, but if I see we are all headed for Niagara Falls I am darn sure that I will yell as loud as I can to try to get them to follow me and paddle upstream.
This is not a Niagara Falls situation, but I'm sure you get the point of the parable.
He is just trying to help. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be helping you in particular.
i understand hes trying to help, im simply just trying to help as well. that the beauty of a forum and heated discussions, great minds have to collide and battle it out once and a while.

and as far as the niagara falls thing, if i saw we were all headed that way i'd jump out and save myself.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Dude, I am watching what you say, your name calling and lack of logic fits the classic definition.

Originally Posted by classix_stang289
no, last time i checked i was fine. i have a "learning disabled" family member so to say, so i would watch what you say next.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Black GT500
This post sounds like you admit your money spent on nitrogen didn't really garner any of the falsely touted "nitrogen benefits", but you are garnering a whole other set of common road hazard benefits that the average auto insurance police gives you for $4 a year?

This makes your position seem even more disingenuous...

Simply bazaar.
i think he's comparing pricing. what is offered from triple A over the course of 1yr versus the other road hazard benefits from doing the nitrofill.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Black GT500
Dude, I am watching what you say, your name calling and lack of logic fits the classic definition.
Likewise, im watching what you say as well and you cant accept the fact that some people might actually BENEFIT FROM NITROFILL, GET OVER IT ALREADY. DONT USE THE FRIGGING NITROGEN THEN! LEAVE THE PEOPLE ALONE WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO TRY IT!
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Do we need a life or what?

Do you realize all we got done is argue about air?
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by red pony
Do you realize all we got done is argue about air?

lol yea i see this. just trying to clear the AIR
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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i dont consider it money spent foolishly if the person benefits from it. listen, im not trying to get people to believe me, cause i could care less what people believe i only care about what i believe. im simply just trying to get people to go out and try this product and make up there own mind about it.

the way to form your own opinion is to actually try the product, not go by someone saying that it worked or didnt work. just try the friggin nitrofill and form your own opinion, and if you dont want to try it then fine i dont care!

dont get all pissy if people benefit from it, geez its air! this started off as a nice topic then turned into a ***** fest from all these haters. cant we be nice and argue at the same time.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by karman
My marriage counselor came up with this line:
The people in the world are like a river full of canoes, you can't make the others paddle the way you want them to. You must learn to allow others to make their own mistakes and learn from them. Don't worry about what other people do.
I told him:
Yeah, but if I see we are all headed for Niagara Falls I am darn sure that I will yell as loud as I can to try to get them to follow me and paddle upstream.
This is not a Niagara Falls situation, but I'm sure you get the point of the parable.
He is just trying to help. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be helping you in particular.
Yeah Blackgt500, this isn't a Niagara Falls situation ! Don't smile, your face will crack!

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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 01:32 AM
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What the hell?

Are you serious?

Hello, classix_stang289 you are the one launching personal attacks and calling people names!

When anyone presents a solid logical argument or simply a statement in opposition to your impossible position, you are the one who responds with the personal attacks and name calling.

Originally Posted by classix_stang289
cant we be nice and argue at the same time.

It is truly comical how you get on your high horse while ignoring logic, contradicting facts and even your own statements, launching personal attacks when you have no reasonable reply to a well presented logical argument, even resorting to calling other forum member names. Then (in a bipolar moment?) you call for everyone to have a kum-bi-ya moment.

When that is all sadly said and done you start out all over again saying how you benefit from wasting your money on nitrogen in your tires. Yet still you can not list one single real benefit.

BTW:
Road hazard insurance is not a benefit of nitrogen in place of air.


It appears some of your confusion comes from you not being able to distinguish facts from opinions.

Here is a clue.

You can say you like to pay money to put nitrogen in your tires in place of free air, and that is your subjective opinion. good on you.

Your problem is you are trying to list off a bunch of false benefits from paying money to put nitrogen in your tires in place of free air that are physically impossible. Then you start a juvenile name calling personal attack on anyone who points it out.

Nitrogen in street car tires doesn't provide anyone, you or anyone else, with any actual benefits, period. No matter how many times you repeat it it won't change.


Originally Posted by classix_stang289
i dont consider it money spent foolishly if the person benefits from it. listen, im not trying to get people to believe me, cause i could care less what people believe i only care about what i believe. im simply just trying to get people to go out and try this product and make up there own mind about it.

the way to form your own opinion is to actually try the product, not go by someone saying that it worked or didnt work. just try the friggin nitrofill and form your own opinion, and if you dont want to try it then fine i dont care!

dont get all pissy if people benefit from it, geez its air! this started off as a nice topic then turned into a ***** fest from all these haters. cant we be nice and argue at the same time.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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You say these claims are false...PROVE IT !!

I'm going "out on a limb "here and , at the risk of sounding sarcastic, I'll bet you live alone don't you ? Because nobody that is that opinionated that harsh or lashes out with the insults like you do could have anybody around for long . Just an observation. Moving on, you have yet to substanciate any of your claims based on reason or application. Instead you force your opinions on us based on your "superoir intelect" of which I do not subscribe! You carry yourself like a prosecuting attorney at a murder case during closing arguements! The difference being THIS jury finds the defendant NOT GUILTY due to LACK OF EVIDENCE! From you! The burden of proof falls on you Blackgt500!

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