hey Black GT500, check out post number 35 just to show you that you dont know what your talking about. i work at a luxury dealership for lexus, its a beautiful place and i use nitrofill every single **** day and i think that all of you haters just have a problem with excepting the fact that this actually works and that its not a scam. nothing bugs me more then someone who pretends to no what they are talking about. like i said, read post 35 and dont be like karman.

 

its not my fault every station isnt offering it, most of all not everyone is educated on the subject so why would they offer something they no nothing about. the stations that dont offer it are losing out and there customers are losing out.

 

its better than checking tires every week or two when you know that nitrogen will hold the pressure longer and you can go months and months or even get lucky and go a year like in post 35 that i talked about. Main thing is if you havent tried it, dont talk crap about it. karman stated before he uses 80% nitrogen, thats 2% more than regular air! that wont do crap for you! But nooooooo he tried nitrogen and doesnt like it but in actuality the purity of his nitrogen he used was CRAP! DO IT RIGHT DO IT ONCE!!!

 

I do know what I am talking about.

If you want to discuss the merits of replacing 15%-18% of the oxygen in street car tires with nitrogen then by all means please provide any scientific or technical data or studies that support your position that these nitrogen salesmen have somehow been able to defy the laws of physics simply by replacing the 15%-18% oxygen with nitrogen.

Other than way too much expansion from heat, which even pure oxygen would not have, it doesn’t matter which gas you have in your tires. At the same inflation pressure it will not change the ride quality, tire wear, or longevity, period. Any claims otherwise are false.

On the other hand, if you want to discuss the extent otherwise honest business owners will go to get money from people (you brought it up). I will be glad to do that too.

The owners of "your" dealership are in the business of making money; their number one goal is to put money in their own coffers, not to look out for their customer’s best interest. Anyone who argues different is a fool or a liar.

I bet you charge your customers lots of money to run your fuel injector cleaning on their nearly new fuel injectors too, don't you?

That my friend is called REVENUE GENERATION! It has absolutely nothing to do with cleaning parts (that generally aren't in need of cleaning) just as replacing 15%-18% of your tires contents with nitrogen isn't about safety, handling, or tire longevity. It is all about revenue generation.

The merits of nitrogen in street car tires are minimal at best! If the nitrogen "hucksters" were filling tires with nitrogen at no extra charge their BS might be slightly more palatable. Charging customer to fill their tires with nitrogen is one thing, telling blatant lies about the benefits of replacing the 15%-18% oxygen with nitrogen is disingenuous at best.



Just say no to nitrogen, undercoating, paint protection, overpriced extended warranties and other unneeded dealer revenue generation add-ons.


"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often credited to P.T. Barnum (1810 – 1891), an American showman. It is generally taken to mean that there are (and always will be) a lot of gullible people in the world.

 

Hey you don't have to tell me... I got the stuff and I know it works ! I worked at a dealership for years and had access to compressed air anytime i needed it ...hell it was right there in my stall ! We had two 15 HP compressors that ran through a large refrigerated dryer. It was DRY air, but still not as good as the 99+ percent you get with NitroFill ! As far as those other guys are concerned, let them go on living in denial. Their skepticizm and know-it-all attitude (and lack of bravery to part with a few bucks to try it), keeps them from benefiting from a good product. They may argue that it isn't the money, it's the principal of it. IT'S THE MONEY !

 

So we'd have no use for it should say only one dealer had it & I went on a trip and needed air would I worry about nitro-air in one tire or at that point have to then change all FOUR so that it maintains balance ?

 

The more I hear you ramble on , the more I know you didn't look at the site I posted .... TWICE ! Do you think ANYBODY is going to pay good money JUST for air in their tires? You get a lot , but you wouldn't know that because you didn't look !

 

[quote=GottaHaveIt;5714097]So we'd have no use for it should say only one dealer had it & I went on a trip and needed air would I worry about nitro-air in one tire or at that point have to then change all FOUR so that it maintains balance ?[/quote NitroFill contends that adding a LITTLE air to "top off" a tire is ok. Just so it is at least 95 percent nitrogen after you have diluted it with air (2-3 lbs max ).

 

It's been said that 90% of all website posted hi-performance car information is based on opinion, hearsay, emotion, or flawed testing instead of factual, verifiable test data. In the case of Nitrogen car tire websites it is closer to 98%. Where are the credible non skewed tests performed under strict repeatable guidelines?

Total unadulterated BullCrap! Absolutely ZERO supporting data.

Total unadulterated BullCrap! How was this tested? Where is the data?

How was this tested? Where is the data?

How was this tested? Where is the data?

There are only three items listed as benefits on that entire website that may actually result from filling your tires with that extra 15%-18% nitrogen. The proven slight pressure loss benefit can be achieved by simply checking and toping off the air in your tires say only even once every month or three. That doesn't even take into account our Mustangs Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems that alarm above 20 PSI.

Since tires fail from many other reasons long before "tire oxidation" from the inside out, and "interior wheel corrosion" as wheels still last long after the life of the car, neither of them are worth spending any extra money on.


Ahh reading between the lines, we see even nitrofill.com knows the truth...

Do you believe all the sales literature you read? You do understand how sales literature works right? I can make a website that says the moon is made of cheese, that won't make it any less Bullcrap.


You Nitrogen followers and hucksters are the ones insisting Nitrogen can somehow defy the basic laws of physics, not us realists, please provide some supporting data or independent tests. Stop presenting 100% biased sales literature and bring some real information to the conversation.

Where are the independent test results?

Don't be a logic hater, follow the laws of physics!


"There's a sucker born every minute"

 

they only sucker is you Black GT500

 

you are just like some of the people who post in the 2010 section of the forum complaining about the new rear end of the car. you just find anything that you can complain about without knowing what you are talking about, you probably never even tried nitrogen in your tires but you try and make yourself sound like you have had it in all your cars. its no different then adding a CAI to your vehicle, its all what makes the vehicle perform better. just like you get results from a CAI, you also get results from nitrofilling of your tires. like i said before to karman, maybe you should read post number 35 over and over and over again. most of all, grow up and do your research like i told you earlier. i use the stuff every day and notice a difference on cars that i dont even own or drive on a every day basis. it works so why knock it.

 

your results come from peopl who have had nitrogen in there vehicles. your results come from the people who test the vehicles that have nitrogen in them.

looks to me like you dont know what the laws of physics are but you talk like you do. like i said before, the only sucker on here that i can tell is you and your stupid comments trying to convince people this is a scam from a topic that i can tell you hardly no nothing about.

 

you would have to try your best to get to a shop that does nitrofill or you use regular air till your done with your trip, there would be nothing to worry about if this happen you can use regular air in one if you wanted. But when your done with your trip and go to a shop that does nitrofill, the only thing that they would have to do is the one tire, it doesnt affect the tires being they fill them indevidually. All in all, there would be no harm done if this occurs.

 

thank you for siding with me on this one, i try to be nice and educate people on a product i use everyday for a verrrrrrrry long time and they got to tell me its a scam???? your right the problem is, that its a gas and people dont want to spend the MONEY on it so they BASH and act like a bunch of little BABIES. im happy to hear that you know where im coming from with this and im happy that you have tried the product and understand it with me. You said it best, "let them go on living in denial"

 

do you realize that the air you breathe and put into your tires already contains about 80% nitrogen ??
Trust me.. Its in you head.. If I put air in 2 tires and pure nitrogen in 2 you would never know which 2 had what.. If your tires are not full of holes they should not need any air ... in fact in my 02 everyday driver its been 3 years since I added any.. have not lost a lb ..

and to let you in on a secret. I have a good friend with a tire store and he sells nitrogen to people who don't know better ... so he says. He laughs all the way to the bank. Calls it the marketing scam of the century. His words..

 

Oh, I have.

Where do I begin to respond to a person with so much hate in their posts?
To quote me with regards to nitrogen, "Its not a scam, its a choice".
Perhaps you missed that one.
You have reacted to my little joke about the % of oxygen in the air like I am a crazy fool.
Thou doth protest too much, methinks.
If you can get nitrogen for free, it won't hurt to use it. You did already point out though that even you can't get pure nitro into a tire.
As you know, remember that the outside of the tire is always exposed to regular air.
Now...
Post #35
"hey but wait theres more for all you people who wanted to laugh at me!"
This isn't about you or laughing at you. It is about discussing common practices and choices.
"Rim rust caused by condensation from water vapor and other gases "
What other gases? Only H2O and oxygen can cause rust.
"Correct tire pressure keeps the manufacturer's recommended “contact patch” on the road."
"A tire filled with "plain old air" can lose 1.5 psi in less than a month"
Gee, I assume that means that if I check my tire pressure frequently (every week) I can continue to forgo the nitrogen.
Relax and enjoy life buddy.
I'm sorry you had a rotten Christmas. The coal in your stocking didn't come from me.

 

Yeah ,the product works great but you get free towing, reimbursment money and other perks besides. (I say this now because I know the haters never acknowledged actually reading the info on the site. I say this because if they saw that info, their skeptical asses would have thrown that in our faces already too !) I didn't just buy the"air", I got a cheap insurance policy good for as long as I own the car!

 

I work for a major manufacturer of fire suppression equipment, and nitrogen is used by us every day.

Nitrogen claims better MPG's, better steering, better handling, better ride, etc. All these claims are true because it helps keep your tire properly inflated. Nitrogen itself CANNOT improve those items.

How does it help keep your tire inflated? Nitrogen molecules are just a little bit bigger than oxygen molecules. And while most people may not realize it, tires are porous, and over time that oxygen can leak out through the microscopic holes in the tires. Since nitrogen molecules are larger, it may not leak out as easy. Not all tires are created equal either, so some tires may naturally lose air quicker than others. This is why some people have no problems with just air while others do.

But guess what? If you take care of your car like most of us here do, then regular monitoring of your tire pressure can have the same results with just the normal air we breath.

So to sum it up, using nitrogen in your tires is not really a scam but a choice, but people are being scammed into using it when they really don't need it. As car enthusiasts we are a little more informed and protect our investments more than those people who only have daily drivers and maintain them only when needed.

It's not something that the every day driver that constantly maintains their car really needs, but it doesn't hurt to use it.

 

Thank you, That was well put.

 

"A tire filled with "plain old air" can lose 1.5 psi in less than a month"

Something about this line bothers me... If you check your tire pressure regularly, you will DEFINITELY lose air. How else do you check your tire pressure?