TMSBrad

Motor Trend reports in the March 2005 issue that the Shelby Mustang will be released as a 2007 model and will be powered by the Ford GT's 550-hp supercharged 5.4L 4V V-8. It will not have IRS as previously planned, but a "beefed up" live axle.

Altoid

I want one. I don't even care what the car looks like.

holderca1

I saw that, I wonder what the asking price will be, it looks like the Shelby will out power the Cobra, guess that question is answered.

rrobello

I was told by a bunch of ricers at a Drift meet last night that it was already out, could it be they had no idea what they are talking about when it comes to cars. No it can't be they drive cars with lawnmower engines.

snkbtn99

Folks, there will not be 2 Cobras .... Here is a scan of the article .... Go down about 1/2 waythrough the thread ..

Its the SHELBY Mustang Cobra

Shelby Cobra

This does not look good for SVT . ......

crazyhorse

I think there will be 2. I think the Shelby will be the R and a regular Cobra will still be reasonable priced.

edit - oooops. quoted the wrong one. meant to quote snkbtn.

cyoda44

DID I not tell everyone there would be a Shelby? HHHuuuuuummm Oh, right who am I... I'm the guy thats on the waiting list for one!!

TomServo92

Why? Having the Shelby name on it doesn't mean squat in regards to SVT. It sounds to me like Ford is trying to cash in on the Shelby name (if it even ends up being named "Shelby Cobra" at all).

creedog

Will this still be at the $100K+ you quoted several months ago. Is this going to be a limited edition from Shelby Co. or Ford? I would assume this will be the GT500 version. Why couldn't Ford offer the GT350 version. :bang: Is this the car that we will see at NY show? Oh well looks like a regular GT for me then if that is the case w/ the $100k.

cyoda44

Will this still be at the $100K+ you quoted several months ago. Is this going to be a limited edition from Shelby Co. or Ford? I would assume this will be the GT500 version. Why couldn't Ford offer the GT350 version. :bang: Is this the car that we will see at NY show? Oh well looks like a regular GT for me then if that is the case w/ the $100k.
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It will be a GT500 and pricing not yet final but your right some where around $100K. Just tryed my contact at Shelby... out of town until tomorrow....Darn!

I'm hoping for new info....

05GT-O.C.D.

I had heard about this the other day and got real excited. Heck, I was almost ready to cancel my order for my 05 Stang GT and just start saving for the Shelby version. I was expecting it to be in the $50k range. But for $100K , I'll keep my GT and just pretend.

holderca1

I think $100k is a tad high, they are wanting to compete with the Z06 and Viper, my guess would be $70-80k. I would be surprised if there is not a SVT Mustang somewhere in between, priced around $40k and ~400-450hp. Just my guess.

rhumb

The SC 5.4 makes sense, though I imagine it would be a bit decontented from the full blown GT(40) version (sans dry sump) to bring the price down a touch. HP will probably be (rated) a tad less lest it steps on their halo car's toes -- probably an even 500 to match the Viper and Z06.

I would be incredulous if the buggy axle rear is retained in the Shelby/Ford/SVT/Whatever Cobra. Sure, they can gird it up to Peterbilt standards, only making it an even heavier, clumsier lump on any road rougher than a bowling lane.

Perhaps as an option for those who take their performance in very careful, measured doses, i.e., but a 1/4 mile at a time on only the flattest, straightest roads. But for those who dare venture away from the straight and narrow, such an agrarian bit of late 19th century engineering would rend a gaping hole in the Cobra's overall performance envelope.

*****rdly cost cutting can be excused trying to squeeze the dray Mustang GT under the $25K bar, but trotting out a truck axle would be embarrassing for anything pretending to be serious performance competition to the Z06 or Viper, Ford would have to cede that contest before entering the ring. Hopefully Ford is possessed of a bit more engineering honor and prestige than bean-counting tight-fistedness.

A car such as the Cobra needs to aspire to please more than just the cold hearts in the accounting department. I think Chevy understands that with its incredibly thoroughly engineered Z06, to which the Cobra will inevitably be compared.

ManEHawke

Wow this is amazing. Can't wait for it to eat up the competition. If 100k is right, then it seems too high for it.

holderca1

The article says it will be 550 hp. Mustang and Cobra have had the most hp for a number of years, I don't think Ford will have a problem with having them both with the same hp.

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Originally posted by rhumb@January 26, 2005, 4:37 PM
I would be incredulous if the buggy axle rear is retained in the Shelby/Ford/SVT/Whatever Cobra. Sure, they can gird it up to Peterbilt standards, only making it an even heavier, clumsier lump on any road rougher than a bowling lane.

Perhaps as an option for those who take their performance in very careful, measured doses, i.e., but a 1/4 mile at a time on only the flattest, straightest roads. But for those who dare venture away from the straight and narrow, such an agrarian bit of late 19th century engineering would rend a gaping hole in the Cobra's overall performance envelope.

*****rdly cost cutting can be excused trying to squeeze the dray Mustang GT under the $25K bar, but trotting out a truck axle would be embarrassing for anything pretending to be serious performance competition to the Z06 or Viper, Ford would have to cede that contest before entering the ring. Hopefully Ford is possessed of a bit more engineering honor and prestige than bean-counting tight-fistedness.

Don't dis it until you see it perform. The '05 Mustang GT can outhandle an '04 Cobra and a 350Z, both with IRS. The article says Ford saved $70 million in development and implementation costs by not putting the IRS in the V6 and GT.

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A car such as the Cobra needs to aspire to please more than just the cold hearts in the accounting department. I think Chevy understands that with its incredibly thoroughly engineered Z06, to which the Cobra will inevitably be compared.

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Just calm down a bit, the car hasn't been even unveiled to the public yet, the only pic in the mag is a chop. Who knows what will be in store.

snkbtn99

Why? Having the Shelby name on it doesn't mean squat in regards to SVT. It sounds to me like Ford is trying to cash in on the Shelby name (if it even ends up being named "Shelby Cobra" at all).
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Let's look at the facts ...
SVT Contour --- Gone
SVT Focus --- Gone
SVT Lightning --- Gone
Colletti --- Gone
Scarpello --- Gone
SVT Cobra --- Pretty convincing article in MT that says Cobra name will have Shelby attached to it. There is no way there will be a SVT Cobra AND a Shelby Cobra. SVT Cobra --- Gone
Even the magazine writers aren't quite sure what is up with SVT. My whole point is, there is not any good news coming out of SVT lately .... The FACTS are pretty tough to ignore ....
I hope I am wrong on all accounts.

ArkAngelx3

Folks calm down, if Ford was smart, they would realize, they can still call it an SVT........Shelby Vehicle Team...........Case closed.

holderca1

Let's look at the facts ...
SVT Contour --- Gone
SVT Focus --- Gone
SVT Lightning --- Gone
Colletti --- Gone
Scarpello --- Gone
SVT Cobra --- Pretty convincing article in MT that says Cobra name will have Shelby attached to it. There is no way there will be a SVT Cobra AND a Shelby Cobra. SVT Cobra --- Gone
Even the magazine writers aren't quite sure what is up with SVT. My whole point is, there is not any good news coming out of SVT lately .... The FACTS are pretty tough to ignore ....
I hope I am wrong on all accounts.
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I am going to have to disagree, Ford is not going to leave that large of a gap in their Mustang lineup, 210/300/550 hp and $20k/$25k/~$75k. I think SVT will make the next SE and most likely will have an SVT badge on the rear end. I am thinking about 400-450 hp and around the $40k price range, a car that should compete rather well with the base Vette.

And don't be surprised if something similar to this is under the hood.

05mach1

I am going to have to disagree, Ford is not going to leave that large of a gap in their Mustang lineup, 210/300/550 hp and $20k/$25k/~$75k. I think SVT will make the next SE and most likely will have an SVT badge on the rear end. I am thinking about 400-450 hp and around the $40k price range, a car that should compete rather well with the base Vette.

And don't be surprised if something similar to this is under the hood.


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Will here picture of 07 Cobra might look like one my friends sent to me, he Said it will have a 6speed man and maybe a 6speed auto. to with Supercharger 5.4 V8 with 500hp, cost $45,000.00 to $50,.000.00. B) you see this at NY Auto show.

t69r00p69

Lets rememeber that this is Motor Trend, so I'll take this with a grain of salt until Ford comes out and says something. On a side note...does anyone know if pricing will be released when they unveil the Cobra in March?