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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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Shoot holes in my plan

Steeda SportsKoni Str.t
Steeda hd strut mounts
Whiteline adj PB + brace
Whiteline UCA
Steeda billet LCAs


That's the list as of today haha; seems to always be changing. I'm wondering if I need adjustable LCAs with this proposed rig, as the drop will be </= 1.25".

Also like the idea of low maintenance bushings - not going for a hard core track setup. My S2000 is loud and unbearable on the highway. Imagine driving in an uninsulated bathtub with the wheels bolted directly to the chassis and you'll get the picture.


I'm looking to make this into a competitive car for track and street use. Not into dragging, but being able to stick from a dig wouldn't hurt- but not at the expense of cornering.


At some point I'm going to want wider wheels/tires. At least 295s out back. Possibly 275s up front. Maybe a square setup with 275s.


Criticism and advice welcome.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by fdesalvo
Steeda SportsKoni Str.t
Steeda hd strut mounts
Whiteline adj PB + brace
Whiteline UCA
Steeda billet LCAs


That's the list as of today haha; seems to always be changing. I'm wondering if I need adjustable LCAs with this proposed rig, as the drop will be </= 1.25".

Also like the idea of low maintenance bushings - not going for a hard core track setup. My S2000 is loud and unbearable on the highway. Imagine driving in an uninsulated bathtub with the wheels bolted directly to the chassis and you'll get the picture.


I'm looking to make this into a competitive car for track and street use. Not into dragging, but being able to stick from a dig wouldn't hurt- but not at the expense of cornering.


At some point I'm going to want wider wheels/tires. At least 295s out back. Possibly 275s up front. Maybe a square setup with 275s.


Criticism and advice welcome.
I have read in several places that the only way to run a square set up is to have a stiffer front sway, I believe, otherwise you get oversteer. I am also in the same dilemma about adjustable LCA's, I just decided I would prefer to buy one product and keep it and be able to use it to it's full advantage down the road. So I decided on the Whiteline LCA's because I don't want to eventually need an adjustable LCA and have to purchase a new set.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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I have read in several places that the only way to run a square set up is to have a stiffer front sway, I believe, otherwise you get oversteer. I am also in the same dilemma about adjustable LCA's, I just decided I would prefer to buy one product and keep it and be able to use it to it's full advantage down the road. So I decided on the Whiteline LCA's because I don't want to eventually need an adjustable LCA and have to purchase a new set.
I [believe] the GTs are already set up with ideal sway bars for a square setup.

I totally get your point about "down the road" flexibility; one day I may decide I need relo brackets, though I've seen the LCA angles on cars running Sport springs and the difference compared to stock is almost negligible.

From what I've seen, the Whiteline gear is the t!ts and likely what will be bolted onto my car (I’m still intrigued by the Fays2 Watts Link). I'm going to have to drive it stock for a couple months, but that will give me time to ponder future mods.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fdesalvo
I [believe] the GTs are already set up with ideal sway bars for a square setup.

I totally get your point about "down the road" flexibility; one day I may decide I need relo brackets, though I've seen the LCA angles on cars running Sport springs and the difference compared to stock is almost negligible.

From what I've seen, the Whiteline gear is the t!ts and likely what will be bolted onto my car (I’m still intrigued by the Fays2 Watts Link). I'm going to have to drive it stock for a couple months, but that will give me time to ponder future mods.
Go to a track day with NASA or SCCA and see what other Mustangs are running, I don't know what the diameter of the sways are and maybe they are soft enough in the rear to allow a square set up.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fdesalvo

I [believe] the GTs are already set up with ideal sway bars for a square setup.

I totally get your point about "down the road" flexibility; one day I may decide I need relo brackets, though I've seen the LCA angles on cars running Sport springs and the difference compared to stock is almost negligible.

From what I've seen, the Whiteline gear is the t!ts and likely what will be bolted onto my car (I’m still intrigued by the Fays2 Watts Link). I'm going to have to drive it stock for a couple months, but that will give me time to ponder future mods.
Sam strano and many others say you need a stiffer front sway or softer rear sway for a big tire square setup. The setup will cause body roll from the large amount of grip up front, so the stiff sway bar is your compensation for the roll

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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fdesalvo
.From what I've seen, the Whiteline gear is the t!ts and likely what will be bolted onto my car (I’m still intrigued by the Fays2 Watts Link). I'm going to have to drive it stock for a couple months, but that will give me time to ponder future mods.
Whiteline has a Watts too FWIW.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 11:03 PM
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Edit: WL Watts Link is plug and play. Disregard the original message - that applies only to GT500.

Thanks, guys.

Wheelman, yah- I think I've read that some fab is required for the diff cooler to work with their watts.

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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by fdesalvo
Thanks, guys.

Wheelman, yah- I think I've read that some fab is required for the diff cooler to work with their watts.
Reeeeeally? Will have to Google that; thanks.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by wheelman
Reeeeeally? Will have to Google that; thanks.
Yep - From what I've read, the breather and oil cooler have to be accounted for. The amount of fab work isn't extensive, but it's nothing I'd want to deal with. I really wanted this one, but will end up with the Fays2 if I get one at all.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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the Watts Link is 100% plug and play with anything other than the 2013 GT500 trackpack, as the standard Mustang track pack does not include the relocated breathers or differential cooler that the GT500 has.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Red_Devil
the Watts Link is 100% plug and play with anything other than the 2013 GT500 trackpack, as the standard Mustang track pack does not include the relocated breathers or differential cooler that the GT500 has.
Great, thanks for the clarification. No need to mod my mod list then.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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Great, thanks for the clarification. No need to mod my mod list then.
That changes everything haha. I'm going to correct th einfo in my posts in the event someone sees it while searching for info and is misled.

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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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No problem! When in doubt, dont be afraid to contact us directly!
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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No problem! When in doubt, dont be afraid to contact us directly!
Do you happen to know if new bolts come with some of the White Line parts? For instance the PHB bolt I believe is a one torque use and since I will be switching to a White Line piece will the PHB bolt be supplied?
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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No they don't come with replacements bolts like the PHB or LCA's. To be honest, you can use them a few times, nothing a little loctite can't cure. I change stuff out all the time and have never had an issue.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 04:42 PM
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Also the whiteline watts link is an amazing piece of quality. We've put a few on and it just takes some patience and time. You'll be very happy with what it can do for you however, if your car is just a DD than it may be a bit of an overkill. Your overall kit is great and will transform your car. No reason to shoot holes thru it. Also the Steeda HD mounts are beefy, I've used them in the past and can tell you they're pretty impressive.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 06:55 PM
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Would the Steeda mounts be recommended for occasional track use? I am trying to put a similar list together but wasn't sure if the mounts would be needed. Are the mounts similar to caster camber plates? If so I think I would just wait to get a set of CC plates.

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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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The HD mounts allow for +- a degree of camber adjustment, they really are a great set of mounts. For the time being the GT500 mounts would work and with a drop not too aggressive they would work just fine. The Koni STR.T are a great set of entry level/ OEM replacement shocks that do very well with lowering springs such as the steeda sports.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay@Hypermotive
The HD mounts allow for +- a degree of camber adjustment, they really are a great set of mounts. For the time being the GT500 mounts would work and with a drop not too aggressive they would work just fine. The Koni STR.T are a great set of entry level/ OEM replacement shocks that do very well with lowering springs such as the steeda sports.
Really what I was wondering is, if I were to get the strut mounts, and eventually decided to get some CC plates, would they replace the strut mounts, and if so I feel like it would make more sense to wait and get a nice set of CC plates rather then spend 400 dollars twice.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 09:11 PM
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Gotcha, now I know where you're getting at. Depends on what you want to do with your mustang. The Steeda HD mounts do have some camber adjustment, although it may be limited if you're someone who likes to run aggressive camber. If your vehicle see's the track seldomly and is mainly a DD the Steeda HD strut mounts will do just fine.
For me, I like the Ground control CC plates. With Billet tops, included spring isolators and the ability to adjust -+ 3 degrees of camber it leaves you with many options. There have been a couple cases of individuals breaking the bolts of these plates during installation. I've personally installed around 10 of these and have never had an issue. For $350.00 shipped, you get a lot for your money going with GC.
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