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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 03:40 AM
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Improve pitching, maintain OEM height/geometry?

Full disclosure: I don't have the car yet, so I'm gonna be "that guy".

I'm ordering a 2014 track pack GT. I've driven a 13' GT/CS at the stealership a few times now and the major grip with the car is the pitching or brake dive and nose up on acceleration.

Catch; I live in Maine -$hit roads in many places, so I'd really like to keep the height as close to OEM as possible, while improving brake dive and hopefully taming the wonky nature of a live rear axle on some of our cruddy roads.

My thoughts are the Ford racing shocks/springs. What are yours?
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 04:19 PM
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Wow. Didn't even know they were taking orders for 2014s.

Wait until you get the new car. Drive it at least a couple of thousand miles stock.
Then, and ONLY then, decide about changing anything. Maybe then some Koni Sports (Yellows) which are adjustable. Every thing on a Mustang is a compromise. Don't sell the stock stuff short.

In the meantime, read everything you can on this and other Mustang forums to help you make up your mind eventually. Bear in mind, of course; 80+% of what you read is mindless bable from those who don't have a clue. Good luck and best regards.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 08:50 AM
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The problem is the big rubber bushings on the back of the lower front A arms. Unfortunately it is really expensive fix on the 2011 and later cars with electric steering.
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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I would suggest thinking about springs before shocks, not entirely sure if shocks have much to do with pitch/yaw, however those that have replaced the springs with FRPP P springs have said it helps with the pitch/yaw.
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullahead
Full disclosure: I don't have the car yet, so I'm gonna be "that guy".

I'm ordering a 2014 track pack GT. I've driven a 13' GT/CS at the stealership a few times now and the major grip with the car is the pitching or brake dive and nose up on acceleration.

Catch; I live in Maine -$hit roads in many places, so I'd really like to keep the height as close to OEM as possible, while improving brake dive and hopefully taming the wonky nature of a live rear axle on some of our cruddy roads.

My thoughts are the Ford racing shocks/springs. What are yours?
I'm in a somewhat similar situation.

I live at the end of a poorly maintained dirt road in northern VT, so a big drop in ride height is just asking for trouble.

I have a 2012 Boss which is supposedly 11 mm lower in the front and 1 mm lower in the rear compared to the GT. I'm planning on getting the Ford Racing adjustable shocks and Ford Racing "P" springs. According to Ford Racing this provides an approximately 1 inch drop on a GT. Based on reports from other owners, I'm hoping for no more than a 1/4 - 1/2 inch drop in the front and 3/4 - 1 inch drop in the rear of my Boss. The FR stuff seems to be getting good reviews and I like that the shocks and springs were developed to work together.

It should be noted that any drop in the rear COULD (in theory) have some negative effects on the rear axle behavior. This can possibly be corrected (or even improved) with new control arms and mounts. However, keep in mind other potential side effects like axle bind (such as from stiff or inflexible bushings) and reduced ground clearance (such as from lower control arm relocation brackets).

I have yet to come across any other springs on the market that can provide a significant performance benefit without dropping the car at least as much (usually more) than the FR P springs.

Otherwise, the only other option I can think of MIGHT be a coilover. For example, according to Eibach, their Multi Pro R1 and R2 Kits can be adjusted from between 0 - 2+ inches of drop. However, even if that is true, I suspect that any coilover (unless you have the $ for something custom) would be too harsh a ride for you.

I don't know if that helps at all, but good luck and let us know what you decide.
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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My coil overs don't ride any harsher than my previous springs. If anything the added rebound makes the ride smoother. Many cars ride harsher with soft springs because the shocks can't pass fluid fast enough so the shock freezes up it doesn't allow the piston to move fast enough for the pump you're hitting.
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullahead
Full disclosure: I don't have the car yet, so I'm gonna be "that guy".

I'm ordering a 2014 track pack GT. I've driven a 13' GT/CS at the stealership a few times now and the major grip with the car is the pitching or brake dive and nose up on acceleration.

Catch; I live in Maine -$hit roads in many places, so I'd really like to keep the height as close to OEM as possible, while improving brake dive and hopefully taming the wonky nature of a live rear axle on some of our cruddy roads.

My thoughts are the Ford racing shocks/springs. What are yours?
You'll be fine. Suspension in regular GT is way different than the Brembo package suspension.
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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 08:49 AM
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I have the Boss 302 book commissioned by Ford. In the suspension development section, the lead engineer discussed the rake of the Boss. They found that a slight forward rake helps with steeing response and turn in. Those of you who've installed 55D springs, have you noticed any changes in steering response?
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