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What do you think it will take to hit 500whp NA with a Boss

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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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The current word is mid to late summer. But no one really knows..

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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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Thanks. I guess it will be the same for the recaro package since mine came without it.... Still hppy as hell, Awesome ride...
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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What do you mean the same as the recaro package? Those ship on the cars. People have cars with them right now
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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500 at the flywheel is possible with the the Boss 302....real headers and a cam swap and tune, should do it.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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I did not order my car. It came with the unique cloth boss 302 seats. I want the recaro (r) seats.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Why bother fooling with the Boss??
i like to make things my own, im not saying i am getting into the engine at all. i find it hard to believe that I am the only one already thinking of things to do to their car. i will track the car on road courses, take it to the dragstrip, autocross it, and take it to car shows, the vast majority of the time it will just be my daily driver. I don't plan on keeping it 100% stock. are most of you planning to do nothing to the car?
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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hmmm, how much of a difference do you think there are between these jpc heads this dude is running and the ported boss heads? he is a bit over 500whp NA.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...p-h-c-i-n.html
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ShaneM
i like to make things my own, im not saying i am getting into the engine at all. i find it hard to believe that I am the only one already thinking of things to do to their car. i will track the car on road courses, take it to the dragstrip, autocross it, and take it to car shows, the vast majority of the time it will just be my daily driver. I don't plan on keeping it 100% stock. are most of you planning to do nothing to the car?
I think there are people planning on doing things to their cars. It just depends on what because one of the nice Boss features is that you have a tuned performance car with warranty. So I guess it just depends on what you want to do to it.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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yeah i held out six months on my 10 before killing the warranty. i fugure if nothing major happens in the first few thousand miles it probably wont. ive never had anythign major on a new car, jut little things like radio issues, and power windows that won't work. knock on wood

i helped a buddy put a boss intake on his 11 today and he ran the lund tune with the cammed sound, it was awesome.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ShaneM
i like to make things my own, im not saying i am getting into the engine at all. i find it hard to believe that I am the only one already thinking of things to do to their car. i will track the car on road courses, take it to the dragstrip, autocross it, and take it to car shows, the vast majority of the time it will just be my daily driver. I don't plan on keeping it 100% stock. are most of you planning to do nothing to the car?
What exactly does it need?
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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What exactly does it need?

its not a matter of need. if you don't understand why someone mods a car i can't really explain it to you.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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I agree with Shane. The car probably "needs" nothing, but that doesn't mean I don't "want" to change things and enhance it's performance. There is no way Ford could produce "the best possible" car and sell it at $40k, there is more performance to be had.

Now to answer the thread topic, yes I think a NA Boss can hit 500. Full exhaust, more headwork, higher rpm, possibly cams. We will see!
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ShaneM
its not a matter of need. if you don't understand why someone mods a car i can't really explain it to you.
I do and sadly it's a function of marketing. Save your modification budget for track time and improve the nut behind the wheel and then you'll have a much faster car than any exhaust, tune, or set of springs will net you.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ShaneM
hmmm, how much of a difference do you think there are between these jpc heads this dude is running and the ported boss heads? he is a bit over 500whp NA.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...p-h-c-i-n.html
The JPC Stage 1 heads (they have Stage 2 and 3 coming out) are very similar to the Boss heads. They flow about 30 cfm intake and 20 cfm exhaust more than the stock heads on the GT.

The cams I have no idea, but I doubt they're much more radical than the Boss cams.

I do think that reading is a little on the high side though.

I bet the stock air induction and exhaust is choking the **** out of the Boss, particularly at high RPM. A full set of bolt-ons on a 2011 GT (CAI, tune, headers, x-pipe, catback) will net around 50-55 rwhp gain. I wouldn't be surprised if it nets more, maybe 65-70hp on the Boss. Assuming the average Boss will dyno 25hp more than the average GT, that would put a bolt-on Boss around 470hp or so.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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I have been dying for a thread update on the dude getting his Boss worked on right now. It seems it will be a while before we hear anything so i got to wondering. I might be happy with 500whp, i think the boss already has very close to the same whp my blown 10 has. What do you guys think it will take to hit 500whp on a boss without a blower? Is that even going to be possible? Thoughts anyone?
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I do and sadly it's a function of marketing. Save your modification budget for track time and improve the nut behind the wheel and then you'll have a much faster car than any exhaust, tune, or set of springs will net you.
Agreed MrBonus! What RWHP can my Boss achieve is the wrong question. For me its how can I shave 2 seconds off my lap time. I'm curious how many Boss owners can out-drive a Stock Boss? I hope to have my Boss this week and find out! But, I'm sure I'm far from that.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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Agreed MrBonus! What RWHP can my Boss achieve is the wrong question. For me its how can I shave 2 seconds off my lap time. I'm curious how many Boss owners can out-drive a Stock Boss? I hope to have my Boss this week and find out! But, I'm sure I'm far from that.
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i under stand driver mod and i need that as well, but this car will spend more time on the road than on the track. at any rate it all goes back to the car doesn't need anythign, i just like to tweak and tinker and change things to suit me more than the track or any specific goal.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ShaneM
... What do you think it will take to hit 500whp NA with a Boss?

... Thoughts anyone?
It does not matter, it really does not matter.

The 500 hp bench mark does not need to be met for the sake of matching the GT500 and having bragging rights. If the Boss 302 meets the expectations of it specs it will be just as fun it were to be a split of a second faster since the difference would be transparent to most drivers.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RTD
The JPC Stage 1 heads (they have Stage 2 and 3 coming out) are very similar to the Boss heads. They flow about 30 cfm intake and 20 cfm exhaust more than the stock heads on the GT.

The cams I have no idea, but I doubt they're much more radical than the Boss cams.

I do think that reading is a little on the high side though.

I bet the stock air induction and exhaust is choking the **** out of the Boss, particularly at high RPM. A full set of bolt-ons on a 2011 GT (CAI, tune, headers, x-pipe, catback) will net around 50-55 rwhp gain. I wouldn't be surprised if it nets more, maybe 65-70hp on the Boss. Assuming the average Boss will dyno 25hp more than the average GT, that would put a bolt-on Boss around 470hp or so.
as it seems you know a fair amount about this.. the tb that is used in this project?

beers
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