Pirelli tire failure on the road
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Originally Posted by bolecailey
Toe in is what usually cause inside tire wear, not negative camer unless your running insane ammounts.
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OK, just back from the dealer. I have not modified the stock camber, I don't have an adjustable kit yet. This was the outside edge on the passenger side. Driver side is fine, looks only slightly worn. The mileage is only 1900+ miles, the other 2 tires are in great shape, and they are the ones spinning the most. They checked alignment, it was pretty close to perfect and tweaked it back to normal.
The local dealer sent pics and the alignment report to Ford engineering/warranty for an approval to replace the tire under warranty. They have never seen anything quite like it. I definitely heard the strip of tire break off and hit the wheelwell, but it was dark so I didn't see anything out back in the mirror. The highway I was on is a clear, well paved road (71 past 35 toward the airport for the locals).
I have never had a tire failure quite like this - I have worn through summer tires in 10,000 miles before, but never lost one this early. In fact, they were Pirelli Pzero Rossos a few years back on another car.
The manager felt that we would hear back with a yes to replace it. Once I wear these out, though, I am moving on to something else. I have had Bridgestone summer tires last me 2 years with "spirited driving".
The local dealer sent pics and the alignment report to Ford engineering/warranty for an approval to replace the tire under warranty. They have never seen anything quite like it. I definitely heard the strip of tire break off and hit the wheelwell, but it was dark so I didn't see anything out back in the mirror. The highway I was on is a clear, well paved road (71 past 35 toward the airport for the locals).
I have never had a tire failure quite like this - I have worn through summer tires in 10,000 miles before, but never lost one this early. In fact, they were Pirelli Pzero Rossos a few years back on another car.
The manager felt that we would hear back with a yes to replace it. Once I wear these out, though, I am moving on to something else. I have had Bridgestone summer tires last me 2 years with "spirited driving".
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those tires look really old man. i can see cracks in them, where did you buy the car? I'm sort of wondering if the dealer may have swapped tires with another car lot that were older. I have seeing dealers swap the entire wheels before if another customer wanted them.very strange failure
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I thought they looked old, too, on the sidewalls. They are not a super common size, I was wondering if they were some leftovers pirelli have the ford factory.
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i doubt that ford would have put old tires on the car. I bet you anything that the dealer swapped the tires. i have seen prestige do that before on cars if they had test driven it and burned a lot of rubber off and just throw something on it to sell. Is it the same tire the other boss 302's come with? lots of track miles? ive seen sidewalls get beat up before if the tire is under inflated and rolling over a lot on the track, but nothing like that. i pulled my factory rubber after almost 11k and there was no tread, but they looked better than those do with 1200 mile.
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Ford has an incredible ability to pick tire suppliers that seem to have problems on the regular
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Hey, Ford, Toyo just had to recall like 80,000 tires - give'em a call.
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This look like an issue Pirelli had between 2007-2009.
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Report Date: January 28, 2012 at 05:15 PM Search Type: TIRES Brand Name: PIRELLI Tire Line / Tire Size: PZERO CORSA
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Brand Name: PIRELLI Tire Line / Tire Size: PZERO CORSA / 285/35 ZR19 (99Y) K1 LEFT Production Dates: JUN 01, 2007 - JUL 31, 2009 Manufacturer: PIRELLI TIRE LLC Mfr's Report Date: SEP 01, 2009 NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 09T012000 NHTSA Action Number: N/A Component: TIRES:TREAD/BELT Summary:
PIRELLI IS RECALLING CERTAIN PIRELLI PZERO CORSA TIRES, SIZE 285/35 ZR19 (99Y) K1, IP 1778200 (LEFT) AND IP 1778300 (RIGHT) MANUFACTURED BETWEEN JUNE 2007 AND JULY 2009. PARTIAL TREAD SEPARATION / BELT EDGE SEPARATION CAN OCCUR AT CONSTANT MAXIMUM HIGH SPEEDS (AT AND OVER 270 KMH OR 168 MPH FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME). Consequence:
TREAD OR BELT EDGE SEPARATION COULD RESULT IN A VEHICLE CRASH. Remedy:
PIRELLI TIRE WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND REPLACE THE AFFECTED TIRES FREE OF CHARGE. THIS RECALL BEGAN ON SEPTEMBER 9, 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT PIRELLI TIRE AT 1-800-747-3554, SELECT OPTION #2. Notes:
OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .
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Report Date: January 28, 2012 at 05:15 PM Search Type: TIRES Brand Name: PIRELLI Tire Line / Tire Size: PZERO CORSA
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Brand Name: PIRELLI Tire Line / Tire Size: PZERO CORSA / 285/35 ZR19 (99Y) K1 LEFT Production Dates: JUN 01, 2007 - JUL 31, 2009 Manufacturer: PIRELLI TIRE LLC Mfr's Report Date: SEP 01, 2009 NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 09T012000 NHTSA Action Number: N/A Component: TIRES:TREAD/BELT Summary:
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I'm not sure if it is related or not, but I am a HATER of these tires. My LS and two other LS's ALL had the tire start de-laminating in the middle after track use. The tire tread literally starts coming apart from the carcass. For all 3 of us, the tires performed VERY well the first track day. Started getting a little "greasy" at the end of a second track day.... and failed during a third track day. Never again on these tires.
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I'm not sure if it is related or not, but I am a HATER of these tires. My LS and two other LS's ALL had the tire start de-laminating in the middle after track use. The tire tread literally starts coming apart from the carcass. For all 3 of us, the tires performed VERY well the first track day. Started getting a little "greasy" at the end of a second track day.... and failed during a third track day. Never again on these tires.
But I'd like to hear from fellow Mustang owners reading this thread if they think I'm mistaken in my thinking,..... which in the past I've been known to be,... at least according to the real "boss"! :-
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The only experience I have with these tires are daily driving and the only complaint I have for now is how noisy the tires have become. They do handle very well as a daily driver but do not plan to buy again.