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OK, first off, I apologize for coming off SmartA$$y. I just got off a 16 hour work shift and was very short.
Here is more info from the gentleman that actually applied it. It was applied over the vinyl stripes and they are still reflective. I'm an electronic techie, he's a detailer. He knows a lot more than I do about car products. below is posted from him on www.boss302forum.com
Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:28 PM
Hey guys!
This is Antonio with Rejuvenators Detailing. I had the pleasure of working on Sam's Boss and applying Opti-Coat. Thank you Sam for your kind words and recommendation.
I figured I would hop on here and clear up any misunderstandings or questions anyone has about Opti-Coat.
First off, it appears some of the links are wrong.
Optimum's main site is http://www.optimumcarcare.com/
They have a forum @ http://optimumforums.org/
You can buy most of their products @ http://optimumforums...x.php?app=nexus
The main site for Opti-Coat is http://www.opti-coat.net/index.php Check here to find a dealer
The link Sammy provided is for the European Distributor, which is why no US dealers are listed
Opti-Coat is a permanent coating made by Optimum Polymer Technology for virtually all non-porous vehicle surfaces. This means it is safe for paint (clear coat and single-stage), metal, and most plastic. This would also include your wheels, which I highly recommend having coated. Opti-Coat is NOT a wax, sealant or glaze. It is a permanent, ceramic coating that actually adds a measurable thickness to your paint. Opti-Coat can be removed only by abrasion (compounding or sanding) or VERY strong chemicals (none of which have any business being anywhere near your car or your body for that matter).
Opti-Coat comes in 2 types: the original Opti-Coat Pro (sometimes referred to as Opti-Guard by some) and the consumer grade Opti-Coat 2.0. The only functional difference between the two is that the Pro version is more concentrated and has a faster cure time. Opti-Coat Pro is only available to professional detailers who have been instructed in application methods and have signed liability forms. Applying Opti-Coat isn't rocket science, but you do have to know what you're doing and pay attention or you'll screw up and have to polish it off and start all over.
Because of its permanence it is highly recommended that any paint imperfections or blemishes be corrected prior to installation. Once you're coated, you're stuck with it. It also requires that the paint surface be 100% clean and free of any oils, waxes or other contaminants. Otherwise it will not adhere properly and will not last.
Once your vehicle is coated, it will not need any kind of wax or sealant. I do know of some people who still wax their coated vehicles. Some for therapeutic reasons, other because they like the look of certain waxes. This is fine and will not affect the coating as long as the wax does not contain any abrasives. However, because of Opti-Coat's repellent nature, nothing will stick very long and will not add any protection.
Opti-Coat, when cured, is harder than your actual paint, making it scratch-resistant. Notice I said "resistant" and not "scratch-proof". It is still important to practice good wash techniques and not be careless with your paint. Opti-Coat certainly isn't a force-field for your paint, although it's close!
I am an authorized installer of the Pro grade Opti-Coat and am the only one in my area. I applied the Pro grade Opti-Coat to Sammy's Grabber Blue Boss 302
The Warranty: Optimum sells Opti-Coat Pro to its installers in 2 ways: a bulk 40cc syringe and a single-use 10cc syringe with its warranty program. The warranty pack includes a folder and a warranty card, which you register with Optimum on their Opti-Coat site www.opti-coat.net. When applied to new vehicles within 12 months of registration, the warranty is for the life of the vehicle, non-transferable. For used vehicles (and I need to verify this) it is a 5-year warranty. Here is the warranty page http://www.opti-coat...5/warranty.html
The Cost: The cost of Opti-Coat has recently been raised to almost double. Even in bulk, the raw cost of Opti-Coat can be as high as $70. When getting the warranty pack, the cost is even higher. This does not include the cost of materials needed to do the proper prep work. I did indeed cut Sammy a deal on his car (basically at-cost) as I still had some Opti-Coat I had purchased at the lower price, and let's be honest, I really wanted the opportunity to show off an Opti-Coated Boss 302. Also, Optimum has strongly recommended a Minimum Advertised Price for Pro Installations so as not to dilute the value of the service and have detailers cutting each others throats with their pricing.
My pricing is now in line with the industry and Optimum's recommendations:
$395 for small vehicles (this includes Mustangs)
$445 for medium (full size wagons, compact SUVs, compact trucks)
$495 for large (Vans, full-size trucks, full-size SUVs)
Pricing does not include prep. Prep for new vehicles needing only decontamination and light polishing is $95. Vehicles needing more extensive polishing to remove swirls, scratches and heavy oxidation starts at $145
I hope this is helpful to anyone who was wondering about Opti-Coat. Feel free to ask me any questions or to contact Optimum directly. They're really nice folks. Plus what other company do you know of where the CEO will talk to you directly about your questions?
Here is more info from the gentleman that actually applied it. It was applied over the vinyl stripes and they are still reflective. I'm an electronic techie, he's a detailer. He knows a lot more than I do about car products. below is posted from him on www.boss302forum.com
Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:28 PM
Hey guys!
This is Antonio with Rejuvenators Detailing. I had the pleasure of working on Sam's Boss and applying Opti-Coat. Thank you Sam for your kind words and recommendation.
I figured I would hop on here and clear up any misunderstandings or questions anyone has about Opti-Coat.
First off, it appears some of the links are wrong.
Optimum's main site is http://www.optimumcarcare.com/
They have a forum @ http://optimumforums.org/
You can buy most of their products @ http://optimumforums...x.php?app=nexus
The main site for Opti-Coat is http://www.opti-coat.net/index.php Check here to find a dealer
The link Sammy provided is for the European Distributor, which is why no US dealers are listed
Opti-Coat is a permanent coating made by Optimum Polymer Technology for virtually all non-porous vehicle surfaces. This means it is safe for paint (clear coat and single-stage), metal, and most plastic. This would also include your wheels, which I highly recommend having coated. Opti-Coat is NOT a wax, sealant or glaze. It is a permanent, ceramic coating that actually adds a measurable thickness to your paint. Opti-Coat can be removed only by abrasion (compounding or sanding) or VERY strong chemicals (none of which have any business being anywhere near your car or your body for that matter).
Opti-Coat comes in 2 types: the original Opti-Coat Pro (sometimes referred to as Opti-Guard by some) and the consumer grade Opti-Coat 2.0. The only functional difference between the two is that the Pro version is more concentrated and has a faster cure time. Opti-Coat Pro is only available to professional detailers who have been instructed in application methods and have signed liability forms. Applying Opti-Coat isn't rocket science, but you do have to know what you're doing and pay attention or you'll screw up and have to polish it off and start all over.
Because of its permanence it is highly recommended that any paint imperfections or blemishes be corrected prior to installation. Once you're coated, you're stuck with it. It also requires that the paint surface be 100% clean and free of any oils, waxes or other contaminants. Otherwise it will not adhere properly and will not last.
Once your vehicle is coated, it will not need any kind of wax or sealant. I do know of some people who still wax their coated vehicles. Some for therapeutic reasons, other because they like the look of certain waxes. This is fine and will not affect the coating as long as the wax does not contain any abrasives. However, because of Opti-Coat's repellent nature, nothing will stick very long and will not add any protection.
Opti-Coat, when cured, is harder than your actual paint, making it scratch-resistant. Notice I said "resistant" and not "scratch-proof". It is still important to practice good wash techniques and not be careless with your paint. Opti-Coat certainly isn't a force-field for your paint, although it's close!
I am an authorized installer of the Pro grade Opti-Coat and am the only one in my area. I applied the Pro grade Opti-Coat to Sammy's Grabber Blue Boss 302
The Warranty: Optimum sells Opti-Coat Pro to its installers in 2 ways: a bulk 40cc syringe and a single-use 10cc syringe with its warranty program. The warranty pack includes a folder and a warranty card, which you register with Optimum on their Opti-Coat site www.opti-coat.net. When applied to new vehicles within 12 months of registration, the warranty is for the life of the vehicle, non-transferable. For used vehicles (and I need to verify this) it is a 5-year warranty. Here is the warranty page http://www.opti-coat...5/warranty.html
The Cost: The cost of Opti-Coat has recently been raised to almost double. Even in bulk, the raw cost of Opti-Coat can be as high as $70. When getting the warranty pack, the cost is even higher. This does not include the cost of materials needed to do the proper prep work. I did indeed cut Sammy a deal on his car (basically at-cost) as I still had some Opti-Coat I had purchased at the lower price, and let's be honest, I really wanted the opportunity to show off an Opti-Coated Boss 302. Also, Optimum has strongly recommended a Minimum Advertised Price for Pro Installations so as not to dilute the value of the service and have detailers cutting each others throats with their pricing.
My pricing is now in line with the industry and Optimum's recommendations:
$395 for small vehicles (this includes Mustangs)
$445 for medium (full size wagons, compact SUVs, compact trucks)
$495 for large (Vans, full-size trucks, full-size SUVs)
Pricing does not include prep. Prep for new vehicles needing only decontamination and light polishing is $95. Vehicles needing more extensive polishing to remove swirls, scratches and heavy oxidation starts at $145
I hope this is helpful to anyone who was wondering about Opti-Coat. Feel free to ask me any questions or to contact Optimum directly. They're really nice folks. Plus what other company do you know of where the CEO will talk to you directly about your questions?
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