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Old 10/11/11, 04:08 PM
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The litigious fool does not belong on this forum!
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Originally Posted by TheBlues9108

I hope TracKey has not been watered down just to pass CARB. I feel FMC did a fantastic promotion advertising TracKey but failed miserably keeping Boss owner informed about the delivery date of TracKey.

I have contacted both FMC and CARB by phone and email. I got the same bull from FCS via phone; TracKey will be released – soon. I have been waiting 4 weeks for someone from Ford to answer my email.

I talked to Lisa Chiladakis at the California Air Resources Board Public Information Offices. She told me the emissions rating are by engine size and TracKey should not be any different than an aftermarket tune kit i.e. SCT Power Flash Tuner.

Regardless of who’s at fault no one can refute the fact FMC has been unwilling and/or unable to be forth coming about the release of TracKey!

Why does FMC need wait until November to announce the release of TracKey?

I agree with all the BOSS Mustang Online posts that FMC should give each Boss owner the TracKey download at no charge.

However, since TracKey was included by some dealership when the Boss owner’s purchased their Boss maybe FMC should give us the 2012 Boss 302-Owner's Limited Edition Print.

It is hard to believe the Boss with TracKeywould have a significant higher Emission Ratings than the Shelby GT500.

Would Deysha, from Ford Customer Service, please provide me the Emissions Ratings of the Boss with and without TracKey?

Below are the Emission Ratings between the Boss without TracKey and the Shelby GT 500:

2012 BOSS 5L 2012 GT500 5. 4L

Global Warming Score: 5* 4* Ranked 1-10 Ten is the cleanest Score*

Annual Greenhouse Gas Emissions: 12563 lbs. 13885 lbs.

Smog Score: 6* 4*
Ranked 1-10 Ten is the cleanest Score*

Annual Smog Emissions: 1650 grams per mile 2400 grams per mile

http://www.driveclean.ca.gov/comparison.php?

vehicle_checkbox=compare_9410&vehicle_checkbox=com pare_9420&x=23&y=2
I just got a headache
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500

I just got a headache
TWSS
Old 10/11/11, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
I just got a headache
A head like that oughtta ache..
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Originally Posted by phiggs54

TWSS
She never uses that, she just rolls over. LOL
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
She never uses that, she just rolls over. LOL
Even better.






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Well this is going nowhere fast...
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Well this is going nowhere fast...
I blame you Gary haha
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I don't think I like new users joining just to troll for class action lawsuits. Sounds like a lawyer and I don't like lawyers. The least of which are ambulance chasing trial lawyers.
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as i said before .. i dont even own a boss .. and now i dont want to ....
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Originally Posted by HOSS429
as i said before .. i dont even own a boss .. and now i dont want to ....

You need a white stripe delete Performance Package GT500.
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Well this is going nowhere fast...
You just noticed?
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Originally Posted by 5 DOT 0
You just noticed?
I'm slow on the draw...
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500

She never uses that, she just rolls over. LOL
My wife has 2 excuses:
1) I've drunk too much alcohol
2) She has not drunk enough alcohol
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Ditto ^3
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I believe the Litigious One is a doctor.
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the litigious fool responds

You boys need to learn some manners. What is it about auto web sites
and haters. I know, it is your constitutional right to say anything you like
on a web site, freedom of speech and all that. Gentleman this is not your
personal kingdom, it is a public forum. People are supposed to be able to
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accused of crimes against the auto industry and sport. Moderators, do your
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Originally Posted by psychopharm1
You boys need to learn some manners. What is it about auto web sites
and haters. I know, it is your constitutional right to say anything you like
on a web site, freedom of speech and all that. Gentleman this is not your
personal kingdom, it is a public forum. People are supposed to be able to
air their opinions and ask questions without being insulted, castigated and
accused of crimes against the auto industry and sport. Moderators, do your
job and encourage discussion and the exchange of ideas---Yes, even ideas
that do not conform to the narrow version of reality that some members
seem to have.
If you don't like it, sue us.
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Originally Posted by psychopharm1
You boys need to learn some manners. What is it about auto web sites
and haters. I know, it is your constitutional right to say anything you like
on a web site, freedom of speech and all that. Gentleman this is not your
personal kingdom, it is a public forum. People are supposed to be able to
air their opinions and ask questions without being insulted, castigated and
accused of crimes against the auto industry and sport. Moderators, do your
job and encourage discussion and the exchange of ideas---Yes, even ideas
that do not conform to the narrow version of reality that some members
seem to have.
hey.. get real.. this is a forum you have to join and follow rules. this is not a hippie love fest. This forum is in public but sine you join it is in fact subject to a few extra rules then your personal soap box.
Its the greedy "lets sue" people like you that have made modern life feel like the dark ages. Its this PC poor me stuff that makes everything need a warning sticker or a nerf coating.

"do your job and encourage discussion and the exchange of ideas".. your free idea is to bring a class action over a silly plastic gimmick.

"Yes, even ideas that do not conform to the narrow version of reality that some members seem to have." I think most of the peoples narrow vision is between right and wrong. I think you maybe on the wrong side of the line on this one. THE ONLY REALITY YOU HAVE PUT FORWARD IS OF GREED AND LACKING.
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Originally Posted by psychopharm1
You boys need to learn some manners. What is it about auto web sites
and haters. I know, it is your constitutional right to say anything you like
on a web site, freedom of speech and all that. Gentleman this is not your
personal kingdom, it is a public forum. People are supposed to be able to
air their opinions and ask questions without being insulted, castigated and
accused of crimes against the auto industry and sport. Moderators, do your
job and encourage discussion and the exchange of ideas---Yes, even ideas
that do not conform to the narrow version of reality that some members
seem to have.
Here's why people responded to you the way they did:
In your very first post in the forum, you talk about bringing a class action lawsuit against Ford. It's like jumping in a conversation with a group of people that have been talking with each other for a while and with whom you have NO history and the first thing you say is "I'm thinking about suing Ford because TracKey isn't available yet. Who wants to join me?" How people reacted to your post doesn't sound unreasonable and ill-mannered if you look at this way. If you want to address others' manners, you may want to consider your own, first.

I agree that people should be free to express their opinions, but how you say it is just as important. If you express your opinion as bluntly as you did, then you should expect blunt responses.

Originally Posted by psychopharm1
I believe there is a potential Class Action situation here. Curious about what other owners and Ford enthusiasts think.
So, you're asking a question that's already been answered in other topics of this forum. What's great about an online forum is that there's a record of what's already been discussed. You may want to take advantage of that before you jump into your next "discussion." There have been 1 or 2 others in this forum that have brought up the idea of a class action lawsuit over the last month or so. They were quickly dismissed by many in the forum because most people don't see a basis for it.

Most people here bought the car for the features and qualities that it already has and not only because of the TracKey. If you bought the car only because of TracKey, then you should have waited until it was available before purchasing it. If your salesman told you it was already available, then that would explain why they are willing to unwind the deal.


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