Think we will see a tiny peek on the 17th?
4/19/13, 08:57 AM
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The fox cars were pretty stale style wise when the gen II probe hit and the gen II probe was a pretty sharp looking car. I don't know how well it would have scaled up to properly fit a V8 but its a shame Ford had invested so much in the Probe as a Mustang replacement that it left them little money to really improve the Mustang. I don't know what might have become of the Mustang if they had never conceived the Probe as a FWD Mustang and dumped so much cash into it but how cool would it have been to essentially have the S-197 chassis albeit in SN95/New Edge dimensions with only a bit less torsional rigidity and a svelte envelope like the Probe GT.
4/19/13, 12:02 PM
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yeah there's no way ford's gonna leak anything at all about the 15's now,
we're entering prime mustang season & they wanna sell as many 14's as possible during the summer.
when sales fall off in nov. then they'll start hyping the 15's for the spring
we're entering prime mustang season & they wanna sell as many 14's as possible during the summer.
when sales fall off in nov. then they'll start hyping the 15's for the spring
4/19/13, 12:34 PM
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this makes alot of sense. why start the hype until they need to.
4/25/13, 07:36 PM
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Happy 40th Anniversary to the Malaise Era
AutoBlog: Apr 17th 2013 http://www.autoblog.com/2013/04/17/h...e-malaise-era/
"Pollution regulations, safety standards and a fuel crisis that saw pump prices skyrocket created the perfect mediocrity storm that forced Americans – and most of the rest of the world – into cars that were as bland and gutless as the Carter administration. The start of the malaise era is roughly marked by the Arab oil embargo of 1973 and the resulting great muscle car extinction, and it lasted until the introduction of the 200 hp + Buick Regal Grand National and the Ford Mustang GT 5.0 in 1985."
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AutoBlog: Apr 17th 2013 http://www.autoblog.com/2013/04/17/h...e-malaise-era/
"Pollution regulations, safety standards and a fuel crisis that saw pump prices skyrocket created the perfect mediocrity storm that forced Americans – and most of the rest of the world – into cars that were as bland and gutless as the Carter administration. The start of the malaise era is roughly marked by the Arab oil embargo of 1973 and the resulting great muscle car extinction, and it lasted until the introduction of the 200 hp + Buick Regal Grand National and the Ford Mustang GT 5.0 in 1985."
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Without the huge success of the 1974 and '75 Mustang II, the Mustang may have never survived. Lets face it fans, the concept above in addition to the same '74-'82 engine options would have been a complete flop.
All in all, the Mustang II had more styling cues from the '64-'68 than any other Mustang until the 2005.
Example:
Aside from the low powered engine options, the Mustang II looked more Mustang than the '71-'73, Fox Body, SN95 and the New Edge did. However, every time Ford deviates from the original recipe, they develop a large following.
If the Mustang II was offered with a 302 and 351 that had 250-350hp, history books would have had a different opinion. With the exception of the 1964, the 1974 is second overall in annual sales.
At that moment, the Mustang II had saved the nameplate from the same thing that claimed so many... Happy Birthday Mustang!!!
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4/26/13, 12:12 AM
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Great post. Honestly, I think the Mustang II had the right idea, it was just poorly executed. It's poorly proportioned, and at the end of the day just not a very attractive or well designed car. It has always looked like they tried to fit the idea of a Mustang over another completely different car (which they did I guess).
4/26/13, 08:07 AM
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4/26/13, 08:31 AM
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The oil embargo did put an end to the Muscle car and performance for some time. It also brought about the Mustang II and fuel economy concerns. While the engine output and overall performance was crippled, the Mustang II, in all due respect, kept the Mustang a smaller, sportier car than the '73. What if Ford wasn't forced to downsize? The '73 would have continued to grow and still offer smaller engines and less horsepower. Without the Mustang II, the Fox body could have ended up the 1978 Fairmont Futura... or at least been that size. Here was the proposed concept made in 1971 on the first Fox chassis.
and that says Mustang on the side. just like the Probe..they still went ahead with it but called it something else, thank God
