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Old 4/3/15, 09:08 AM
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Sounds like that is a nightmare...
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Actually I was very happy with the way it was handled with State Farm. I just hurt my left shoulder when it hit the window, which needed a couple months too heal. And I was very lucky in she hit my driver side front tire area. A few feet further back and it would have been a lot worse. About $8000 in damage to my car and her car was totaled. Also the collision shop could not believe how quickly Progressive got the check to them to cover my deductible. They hand delivered it. They were probably just hoping I did not sue.

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Originally Posted by cleangraystang
I have state farm now and have had them for 10 years no accidents never called them for anything but every month they go up $5.00 to $10.00. So I think that I will give Geico a call too..
State Farm has managed to go from the best and cheapest(if you had good record) to the sleaziest,bait and switch,crooks.They always quote a decent price and will continuously jack up your rate for no reason but corporate greed.
They suck. I now have Geico,at least you get to deal with the actual co,not some uniformed, parasitic agent.

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Originally Posted by 15BluStang
I learned it is not just about what you pay for insurance in 2007. I was t-boned in my six month old 2007 Mustang. Both the tow truck driver and the collision shop told me the same thing. Go through my State Farm policy rather than the at fault driver's Progressive policy. State Farm would require repair with Ford parts and Progressive would require repair with OEM parts when available.
This is true, but SF also tells the body shop to find used parts if they can, which doesn't necessarily mean that the aftermarket new is worse than OEM used. My body shop is currently trying to source a used door to put on my car, and you have no say when the insurance company is paying the bill. A used door doesn't bother me personally, but it might bother some people. They're going to paint the whole thing, inside and out, anyways so it doesn't matter to me, as long as it's a Ford part.

That said, my SF Claims agents have been complete waste. They determined I was 100% at fault for the cause of the accident, though the other driver committed an unsafe lane change and failed to stop or avoid me as I was going back into the other lane. His insurance, All State, was very pleasant to deal with. They even said it might be a shared liability, if only 70-30, still mostly my fault. I would've been okay with that, as it wouldn't have raised my premium as much, but SF (my carrier) completely put me at fault so why would his insurance argue with that? I can't wait to see what my premium goes up to now that I'll be losing my "good/safe driver" discount
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I called my State Farm agent and complained. Rate hikes with no accidents on record. I said at 50 and a clean record they should find a way to discount the cost. Plus lower miles each year and NO tickets. I got discounted a couple weeks later. I still think about looking around though.

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Originally Posted by rider
State Farm has managed to go from the best and cheapest(if you had good record) to the sleaziest,bait and switch,crooks.They always quote a decent price and will continuously jack up your rate for no reason but corporate greed.
They suck. I now have Gecio,at least you get to deal with the actual co,not some uniformed, parasitic agent.
that was one of the main reasons I stopped driving for a while and closed with SF, they kept acking up my rates then when I would call to get them back to low rates and "reapply" for my discounts they would nearly argue how its there policy to have people reapply for the discounts, I am sorry I should NOT have to reapply each month for MY discounts when I barely drive as is and have a older truck that is usually a lot less to insure AND it stays in a garage/enclosed parking area...WTH come one people! STOP jacking me around by the ***** please....oh and on top of that they wanted to say I was at fault and pay out another claim which I had picture evidence to show that there was superficial damage if any at all...
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Originally Posted by laserred38
It's a bill you have to pay on time, and they need to know you're going to a) have at least your deductible and b) that you're trustworthy enough to not run from the scene of an accident. Their liability has everything to do with your credit (literally and figuratively).
True, but I dont see how they could not provide him insurance for "bad credit" as he said its at 730. Shouldn't they just provide him with a little higher quote then a person with good credit, I have never heard of anyone say that they got turned down by insurance company without even a quote.
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Originally Posted by =HYPERDRIVE=
True, but I dont see how they could not provide him insurance for "bad credit" as he said its at 730. Shouldn't they just provide him with a little higher quote then a person with good credit, I have never heard of anyone say that they got turned down by insurance company without even a quote.
That is true...and I agree. Probably more to the story. My credit is around there too, but j still have dings on my report from having "too much debt" (i.e. my car lol) and "delinquent accounts" which is bs stemming from a pos credit card company that "lost" my payments for 3 months and never told me, even though the money was drafted out of my checking account and my bank verified this with them over the phone. The company told me it would be removed from my report, but somehow it still shows up. That said, I was able to get my loan at 4.25%, first time buyer with no cosigner, so I think I still did pretty well...
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Originally Posted by laserred38
That is true...and I agree. Probably more to the story. My credit is around there too, but j still have dings on my report from having "too much debt" (i.e. my car lol) and "delinquent accounts" which is bs stemming from a pos credit card company that "lost" my payments for 3 months and never told me, even though the money was drafted out of my checking account and my bank verified this with them over the phone. The company told me it would be removed from my report, but somehow it still shows up. That said, I was able to get my loan at 4.25%, first time buyer with no cosigner, so I think I still did pretty well...

I can't figure out how they calculate credit ratings. When I got the Mustang, I took a 72 mo. note @ a prefered 2.34% because my rating was over 740. At the time I had a crapload of credit cards, a mortage, and a lease on my DD Fusion...still do.

A month later I paid off my mortgage and my biggest credit card. I just recently requested a limit increase and was denied since my rating dropped to 700 because I had too much debt!!!! I had more debt when I got the Mustang and I still got a loan at under 2.4%!!!!!

I blame it all on Democrats.
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Originally Posted by TripleBlack14
I can't figure out how they calculate credit ratings. When I got the Mustang, I took a 72 mo. note @ a prefered 2.34% because my rating was over 740. At the time I had a crapload of credit cards, a mortage, and a lease on my DD Fusion...still do. A month later I paid off my mortgage and my biggest credit card. I just recently requested a limit increase and was denied since my rating dropped to 700 because I had too much debt!!!! I had more debt when I got the Mustang and I still got a loan at under 2.4%!!!!! I blame it all on Democrats.
Same happened to me. Credit went down even though all my cards paid off any only the car loan
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wow something is really messed up there, I don't have perfict credit and I still got Geico....call them up and see if you can find out why they denied you at a 730.....that is a bit strange...
A bit strange for sure.... It was a mailer form them. Filled it out and sent it in. I really was not interested. Been a USAA member for 30 years. Wife wanted a change or to look into a change. Letter came a week later. Wife has not bothered me again about it....

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Applied? I called and got a quote in like 5 minutes.
USAA cheaper and better than most. No desire

Originally Posted by =HYPERDRIVE=
You sure you didn't go to a bank drunk and thought you going to get insurance?
What does your credit got to do with car insurance.
Nope not drunk. I have no clue why they would reject me on the basis of credit.... Just not interested enough to care if they can't get it right the first time. I have heard bad USAA stories but they have never done me wrong.
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Michigan also allows insurance companies to adjust rates based on credit (we have some of the highest insurance rates, it's absurd). It's complete crap, and I'm fairly sure everyone involved knows it...but I guess they'll do whatever they can to make another buck.

As far as credit scores are concerned, ponder this: a few years ago I ran into a bunch of money issues and ended up with a foreclosure and a couple defaulted credit cards. Before all this, when I bought the house (at age 21), my credit score was 620. No negative issues, only reason for the score was that I was so young and had almost no history (despite having accounts open since 18).

Right now, with the foreclosure and a handful of defaults on my record (and with NO currently open accounts) my score is a 630. How the hell does that work?
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Originally Posted by Joeywhat
Michigan also allows insurance companies to adjust rates based on credit (we have some of the highest insurance rates, it's absurd). It's complete crap, and I'm fairly sure everyone involved knows it...but I guess they'll do whatever they can to make another buck. As far as credit scores are concerned, ponder this: a few years ago I ran into a bunch of money issues and ended up with a foreclosure and a couple defaulted credit cards. Before all this, when I bought the house (at age 21), my credit score was 620. No negative issues, only reason for the score was that I was so young and had almost no history (despite having accounts open since 18). Right now, with the foreclosure and a handful of defaults on my record (and with NO currently open accounts) my score is a 630. How the hell does that work?
It's all a bunch of bs. All of it.
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It's gotta be. The formula to figure this stuff out is in no way based in reality. It just seems like a ruse at this point.

Gotta make sure we're all good little consumers I guess...
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Originally Posted by Joeywhat
It's gotta be. The formula to figure this stuff out is in no way based in reality. It just seems like a ruse at this point.

Gotta make sure we're all good little consumers I guess...
Is there even a true formula? Most places that need credit checks go through 2 or 3 different places, that all have (sometimes significantly) different numbers.
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I have State Farm. I have the, 'less than 6,000 miles per year' discount. I hit 130mph on the interstate the other day, i'm glad i don't have the tracker crap
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Nationwide offered me the same thing, I told them that if I had that in my car, they would end up canceling my insurance all together.
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We have enough intrusion by the feds. The last thing I'd ever allow is a private company reading my cars thoughts....no matter how good the savings.
Originally Posted by 15BluStang
I agree. I do not mind simply reporting the mileage since that is all Sync does. But In-Drive is a no go with what they report.
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I wouldn't use InDrive even if it made my insurance free.



I am not willing to share my data either (at least where I have a say). Big Brother & Big Corp has enough power over us lowly souls as it is. It will only be used against you.

Or am I just paranoid...
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I had State Farm and got a really big safe driver discount. Kids with good grades even bigger. In the local news they did a segment that if you use a device in the car the insurance company even if driving really safe could really raise your rates based on the accelerometer in the car.It's nuts I would never use one.
I'd love to take one of those "sapshot" devices to the track with me. 135+MPH, full 1G threshold braking, full throttle for multiple gears etc, .95g cornering. Then send it back to them and see what they say
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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
I'd love to take one of those "sapshot" devices to the track with me. 135+MPH, full 1G threshold braking, full throttle for multiple gears etc, .95g cornering. Then send it back to them and see what they say
That was my thought. Sure, if you only use your vehicle for A-B travel and not for recreation, then go ahead. But as soon as you do any spirited driving, road course, autocross, or offroading then these devices could be more of a headache than they are worth.


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