2015 - 2023 MUSTANG Discuss everything 2015-2023 S550 Mustang

NEW Shelby GT350 .

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 2/5/14, 03:16 PM
  #41  
Like Father...
I ♥ Sausage
 
Rather B.Blown's Avatar
 
Join Date: April 4, 2007
Location: Just outside the middle of nowhere
Posts: 20,269
Received 603 Likes on 434 Posts
Originally Posted by CCTking
I still cant get over those tires! Theyre massive!

The rears are only 10mm wider than the GT500 already has.

Last edited by Rather B.Blown; 2/5/14 at 03:17 PM.
Old 2/5/14, 03:33 PM
  #42  
Legacy TMS Member
 
laserred38's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 6, 2006
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 14,047
Received 166 Likes on 141 Posts
Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
The rears are only 10mm wider than the GT500 already has.
But they look a lot beefier with the lower offset wheels, taller sidewalls and wider fronts.
Old 2/5/14, 04:03 PM
  #43  
FR500 Member
 
CCTking's Avatar
 
Join Date: December 9, 2011
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 3,513
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by laserred38
But they look a lot beefier with the lower offset wheels, taller sidewalls and wider fronts.
295 on all four corners is grip city. But will it be able to manage trinitys power? Only time will tell
Old 2/5/14, 04:05 PM
  #44  
Legacy TMS Member
 
laserred38's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 6, 2006
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 14,047
Received 166 Likes on 141 Posts
Originally Posted by CCTking
295 on all four corners is grip city. But will it be able to manage trinitys power? Only time will tell
It's not gonna have the Trinity. I'll post a pic of me eating my shoe if it does. I'm guessing N/A hopped up Coyote (think Boss 302 on steroids) and then eventually blown version of that engine for the GT500, if the GT500 comes back.
Old 2/5/14, 05:56 PM
  #45  
Shelby GT350 Member
 
Thomas S's Avatar
 
Join Date: April 29, 2005
Posts: 2,133
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by laserred38
It's not gonna have the Trinity. I'll post a pic of me eating my shoe if it does. I'm guessing N/A hopped up Coyote (think Boss 302 on steroids) and then eventually blown version of that engine for the GT500, if the GT500 comes back.
Why do you think they used the quad exhaust tips from the Trinity? not arguing, just asking.
Old 2/5/14, 06:28 PM
  #46  
Cobra Member
 
UOP Shadow's Avatar
 
Join Date: July 3, 2012
Posts: 1,099
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by Krohn
Of course! I just want it to be the SVT Cobra again, not the Shelby GT500.

I remember when it first came out though, I used to call it the Ford SVT Shelby GT500 Cobra. lol ... since all had a part in it.
We often joke that we own a 2013 Ford Mustang 20th anniversary SVT Cobra Shelby GT500 because it has all of those markings on it somewhere on the car.

Originally Posted by CCTking
I still cant get over those tires! Theyre massive!
Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
The rears are only 10mm wider than the GT500 already has.
Our 2013 has 275s in front & 295s in rear. They don't seem that massive.



Originally Posted by mustang_lurkers
Car and Driver still says it will have the "Trinity" engine in it as well as still being called the GT-500. I wonder why they are so much different on their opinion compared to everyone else.
Ford & Ford insiders have clearly stated that the Trinity dies with the 2014 GT500. There are a number of posts about this over at mustang6g.

Last edited by UOP Shadow; 2/5/14 at 06:35 PM.
Old 2/5/14, 09:44 PM
  #47  
FR500 Member
 
CCTking's Avatar
 
Join Date: December 9, 2011
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 3,513
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by UOP Shadow
We often joke that we own a 2013 Ford Mustang 20th anniversary SVT Cobra Shelby GT500 because it has all of those markings on it somewhere on the car. Our 2013 has 275s in front & 295s in rear. They don't seem that massive. Ford & Ford insiders have clearly stated that the Trinity dies with the 2014 GT500. There are a number of posts about this over at mustang6g.
The fronts just seem significantly bigger even thought they arent too far off. Its just the look of the square set-up i guess.
Old 2/5/14, 09:59 PM
  #48  
bob
Legacy TMS Member
 
bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 16, 2004
Location: Bristol, TN
Posts: 5,197
Received 15 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by CCTking
295 on all four corners is grip city. But will it be able to manage trinitys power? Only time will tell

In terms of drag racing? Only marginally if at all, wide tires are great for lateral acceleration but don't contribute all that much to forward thrust. Especially a tire with a short stiff sidewall that doesn't allow for much deflection.


A taller tire would be much more effective in helping it cope with getting that power off the line and to the ground.
Old 2/5/14, 10:20 PM
  #49  
FR500 Member
 
CCTking's Avatar
 
Join Date: December 9, 2011
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 3,513
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by bob
In terms of drag racing? Only marginally if at all, wide tires are great for lateral acceleration but don't contribute all that much to forward thrust. Especially a tire with a short stiff sidewall that doesn't allow for much deflection. A taller tire would be much more effective in helping it cope with getting that power off the line and to the ground.
Not necessarily drag racing. Utilize the new IRS and put that power down at the top of an apex.
Old 2/6/14, 05:13 AM
  #50  
legacy Tms Member MEMORIAL Rest In Peace 10/06/2021
 
David Young's Avatar
 
Join Date: September 16, 2009
Location: Clinton Tennessee
Posts: 3,377
Received 124 Likes on 100 Posts
Maybe the tires are 305's?
Old 2/6/14, 05:32 AM
  #51  
Cobra Member
 
UOP Shadow's Avatar
 
Join Date: July 3, 2012
Posts: 1,099
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by David Young
Maybe the tires are 305's?
One of the pictures shows the rears are 295s on a 19" wheel.

Last edited by UOP Shadow; 2/6/14 at 11:47 AM.
Old 2/6/14, 11:10 AM
  #52  
Stubborn Bear
TMS Staff
 
Scothew's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 30, 2004
Location: Sticks, AL
Posts: 22,688
Received 48 Likes on 39 Posts
Sadly please go to the external links that have the pictures hosted. I just got a request to remove them from our site due to unauthorized use (i.e. paparazzi wanting money).
Old 2/6/14, 11:17 AM
  #53  
FR500 Member
 
CCTking's Avatar
 
Join Date: December 9, 2011
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 3,513
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by Scothew
Sadly please go to the external links that have the pictures hosted. I just got a request to remove them from our site due to unauthorized use (i.e. paparazzi wanting money).
Old 2/6/14, 02:06 PM
  #54  
Legacy TMS Member
 
laserred38's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 6, 2006
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 14,047
Received 166 Likes on 141 Posts
Originally Posted by Thomas S
Why do you think they used the quad exhaust tips from the Trinity? not arguing, just asking.
Maybe because Ford liked the quad tip exhaust distinguishing the SVT model versus the standard GT? And maybe they're using the last gen mufflers just for testing?
Old 2/6/14, 07:12 PM
  #55  
 
rhumb's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 30, 2004
Location: DMV
Posts: 2,980
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by laserred38
It's not gonna have the Trinity. I'll post a pic of me eating my shoe if it does. I'm guessing N/A hopped up Coyote (think Boss 302 on steroids) and then eventually blown version of that engine for the GT500, if the GT500 comes back.
I think this the most likely scenario. Trinity dies with S197, next SVT is very tweaked (flat crank even?) 5.x Coyote GT350, GT500 will be an Egoboost Coyote.

As for quad exhaust outlets, those are hardly unique or limited to the Trinity motor, unless WRX STis are running Trinity motors. I suspect quad outlets will be a signature design element of SVT Stangs, much like on BMW M cars now.

As for the big meats, I highly suspect that the S550 will be far less the drag-centric unidimensional performance cars that the lively axles s197 was somewhat consigned to being. Even if only the equal of a comparable S197 off the line or down a smooth straight, I suspect the S550s will have a far broader and deeper overall performance capability, certainly outside the narrow, artificial confines of the strip.

Last edited by rhumb; 2/6/14 at 07:21 PM.
Old 2/6/14, 07:50 PM
  #56  
Legacy TMS Member
 
laserred38's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 6, 2006
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 14,047
Received 166 Likes on 141 Posts
Originally Posted by rhumb
I think this the most likely scenario. Trinity dies with S197, next SVT is very tweaked (flat crank even?) 5.x Coyote GT350, GT500 will be an Egoboost Coyote. As for quad exhaust outlets, those are hardly unique or limited to the Trinity motor, unless WRX STis are running Trinity motors. I suspect quad outlets will be a signature design element of SVT Stangs, much like on BMW M cars now. As for the big meats, I highly suspect that the S550 will be far less the drag-centric unidimensional performance cars that the lively axles s197 was somewhat consigned to being. Even if only the equal of a comparable S197 off the line or down a smooth straight, I suspect the S550s will have a far broader and deeper overall performance capability, certainly outside the narrow, artificial confines of the strip.
Old 2/6/14, 08:11 PM
  #57  
2013 RR Boss 302 #2342
 
Mustang Freak's Avatar
 
Join Date: March 6, 2012
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 11,675
Likes: 0
Received 2,181 Likes on 1,627 Posts
Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
The rears are only 10mm wider than the GT500 already has.
Sounds like tire envy to me?!?
Old 2/6/14, 09:27 PM
  #58  
bob
Legacy TMS Member
 
bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 16, 2004
Location: Bristol, TN
Posts: 5,197
Received 15 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by laserred38
It's not gonna have the Trinity. I'll post a pic of me eating my shoe if it does. I'm guessing N/A hopped up Coyote (think Boss 302 on steroids) and then eventually blown version of that engine for the GT500, if the GT500 comes back.

Agreed, I don't see much space for it to fit. The coyote looks tight in there.
Old 2/6/14, 10:41 PM
  #59  
Shelby GT500 Member
 
conv_stang's Avatar
 
Join Date: March 3, 2004
Location: Richmond VA
Posts: 2,633
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Dont hear any blower whine...
Old 2/7/14, 10:17 AM
  #60  
Cobra R Member
 
rmurer's Avatar
 
Join Date: March 29, 2012
Location: S.E Michigan
Posts: 1,687
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by conv_stang
Dont hear any blower whine...
being a video from october, we have no clue what they were actually testing.


Quick Reply: NEW Shelby GT350 .



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:48 AM.