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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:03 AM
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With the frame shape it definitely hints at the headlights wrapping more around the fenders like most of the concept drawings have.

Could all of that junk around the intake have anything to do with direct injection?

2010 mule coyote here.
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new one.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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Notice the strut towers on the mule seem to be canted to the rear . Upgraded or new type front suspension ?
I would suspect simply a greater strut angle for a bit more aggressive geometry. It might have a virtual lower pivot point, but you would really be able to tell by looking at the top of the struts/suspension.

A lower and further back motor would have several advantages: lower CG, better weight distribution and easier to comply with Euro pedestrian standards. Oh, all that and it would look sharper too with a lower, sleeker front end, perhaps with a lower cowl and beltline and improved external vision/sightlines.

Rear IRS=old news.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:49 AM
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I agree rhumb, the lower setback of the engine being needed for the lower rake of the nose. Being that the car will have to be designed around not only the coyote engine alone but also superchargers. Despite the fact the next gt500/cobra will most likely be turbo I don't see why Ford Racing or other after market wouldn't sell supercharger upgrades too due to the much lower cost than a turbo kit.


after reviewing the new details I have determined the car will look like this. The most beautiful car i have ever seen.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Knight
I agree rhumb, the lower setback of the engine being needed for the lower rake of the nose. Being that the car will have to be designed around not only the coyote engine alone but also superchargers. Despite the fact the next gt500/cobra will most likely be turbo I don't see why Ford Racing or other after market wouldn't sell supercharger upgrades too due to the much lower cost than a turbo kit.

after reviewing the new details I have determined the car will look like this. The most beautiful car i have ever seen.
Sonic blue terminator. I kick myself every time I see one for buying black instead.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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Sonic blue terminator. I kick myself every time I see one for buying black instead.
:meh: I kinda hate that I know meh
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Knight
I agree rhumb, the lower setback of the engine being needed for the lower rake of the nose. Being that the car will have to be designed around not only the coyote engine alone but also superchargers. Despite the fact the next gt500/cobra will most likely be turbo I don't see why Ford Racing or other after market wouldn't sell supercharger upgrades too due to the much lower cost than a turbo kit.


after reviewing the new details I have determined the car will look like this. The most beautiful car i have ever seen.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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That Termi is

Now, a cross between that, the S197 and Fusion and I reckon we'd have a great looking S550.

But now I really wanna see a proper camo'd mule, even if it is sporting a duvet
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
That Termi is

Now, a cross between that, the S197 and Fusion and I reckon we'd have a great looking S550.

But now I really wanna see a proper camo'd mule, even if it is sporting a duvet
That doesn't sound like too bad of a combination!
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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Yes, no surprise that there is an IRS of course but this is the first photo I have seen of it. Are there others we should know about?

Those IRS photos were all captured at the same time, and they were discussed here

https://themustangsource.com/f806/20...potted-509754/
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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Sorry, 1 track mind here.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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Sorry, 1 track mind here.
I'm not complaining
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight
With the frame shape it definitely hints at the headlights wrapping more around the fenders like most of the concept drawings have.

Could all of that junk around the intake have anything to do with direct injection?

2010 mule coyote here.

new one.
I hope that's not the final coolant tank. It's hideous...SHR get on that! Haha
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight
With the frame shape it definitely hints at the headlights wrapping more around the fenders like most of the concept drawings have.

Could all of that junk around the intake have anything to do with direct injection?

new one.
Looks a tad odd.

Although I wouldn't be surprised. It's a great way to increase efficiency. Plus add better aerodynamics, this new GT could be the most powerful and FE pony car on the market.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight
Could all of that junk around the intake have anything to do with direct injection?
If the PCV system is taking a very convoluted path from the cam cover to the intake thats a good indicator of DI - despite the many good things about DI its biggest problem is coking on the intake valves.

In a port injected engine you get the benefit of cool fuel spraying on the intake valve lowering its temperature and washing the back side of the valve down preventing the formation of deposits on the valve.

In a DI engine with the lack of fuel spraying on the valve, it runs hot and has nothing to wash the build-up of oil on the valve which cooks off and begins to build up, coking the valve.

The fix obviously is to filter as much oil as you can delaying the onset of an expensive reapir or recall for as long as you can.

GM's Gen V SBC sports those funny looking towers on the valve covers not as some sort of DI system (which is hidden under the manifold to reduce noise) but to filter the gases circulating from the PCV to the intake manifold.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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I just don't get why so many of you keep asking for things that serve no advantage. IRS, direct injection. The mustang has great handling now. Fuel mileage and power are better than ever. Is it just because the Germans are doing it? Get your heads our of Top Gears asses. This is a great performing AMERICAN muscle car. Not a touring coupé.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I just don't get why so many of you keep asking for things that serve no advantage. IRS, direct injection. The mustang has great handling now. Fuel mileage and power are better than ever. Is it just because the Germans are doing it? Get your heads our of Top Gears asses. This is a great performing AMERICAN muscle car. Not a touring coupé.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight
I agree rhumb, the lower setback of the engine being needed for the lower rake of the nose. Being that the car will have to be designed around not only the coyote engine alone but also superchargers. Despite the fact the next gt500/cobra will most likely be turbo I don't see why Ford Racing or other after market wouldn't sell supercharger upgrades too due to the much lower cost than a turbo kit.


after reviewing the new details I have determined the car will look like this. The most beautiful car i have ever seen.
Amazing!! made my day
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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I just don't get why so many of you keep asking for things that serve no advantage. IRS, direct injection. The mustang has great handling now. Fuel mileage and power are better than ever. Is it just because the Germans are doing it? Get your heads our of Top Gears asses. This is a great performing AMERICAN muscle car. Not a touring coupé.
I'm still wondering why we switched over from carburetors and bias ply tires. They worked just fine!
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I just don't get why so many of you keep asking for things that serve no advantage. IRS, direct injection. The mustang has great handling now. Fuel mileage and power are better than ever. Is it just because the Germans are doing it? Get your heads our of Top Gears asses. This is a great performing AMERICAN muscle car. Not a touring coupé.
It would be pretty ridiculous for a manufacturer to let a car stagnate though. The car does handle great and is more efficient than its ever been, but why be happy with that? Why not continue to push the boundaries of what's possible?

And I don't see how IRS and direct injection aren't advantages. It would be foolish to not take advantage of DI especially. Sure the mileage is great now, but it can always be better.

If a company isn't striving to make a better product every single time they try, they might as well not be making it at all. "good enough" is not a stance a company can take on its products and expect to be successful, especially considering the Mustang is going to be sold abroad with the next gen.

This car is only going to get better.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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I'm still wondering why we switched over from carburetors and bias ply tires. They worked just fine!
Personally I was always fond of a car with leaf springs.
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