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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 04:14 PM
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Could look like this according to this month's Road&Track.

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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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I talked to a Ford rep and he assured me it would not have a Ford Fusion style front end. It will be 100% distinctly Mustang.

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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Zastava_101
Actually, this is the one that stands out to me the most. Catfish mouth aside, I like this most because it's crisp. You can put it right next to a new 4 series BMW and I'll take the Mustang.

However, all the other renders (orange) are too tame, all you could do is put them next to a Hyundai Genesis coupe and I would take the Hyundai.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 10:37 PM
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I chose to manipulate Road and Track's rendering and came up with this.
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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Interesting mention of a GT350 with a 5.4 flat-crank V8 approaching 600hp.

Now that would certainly be an out-of-the-box thinking approach to performance, neither being the predictable 800 cubic inch bent crank locomotive motor typical of Detroit, nor the 4 liter many-turbo-gizmo-fest typical of just about any production performance V8 these days, anywhere.

The 7K redline wouldn't be anything special, perhaps he meant 8K, which isn't astounding these days, what with 8K+ Audis and BMWs readily available, nevermind the 9K Ferrari 458 dental drill, but that would be a lot for a generously sized 5.4 mill.

The flat crank is a lot lighter, dispensing with all the counterweighting of a bent crank, and is what gives these motors their chain-saw throttle response over the more, ummm, of a 90-degree crank. Also, the intake/power pulses are equal across the banks that, while losing that American V8 looping cadence does enhance inhaling and exhaling and thus, power. The old GT40 accomplished a similar effect on the exhaust side with their "bundle of snakes" headers that were possible with the mid-engine design and gave them a much smoother, Euro if you will, exhaust note, not so lumpy as a regular American V8s.

Anyways, I've only heard of this rumor this once, from R&T, so who knows, but that would certainly announce to the world, especially beyond our shores, that Ford's not content to simply do the same old same old with the Stang and that it will be very much a car of today and tomorrow, technology-wise, while retaining the basic concept and spirit of the original. Do recall that the original Stang, and the GT-350 had what was, at the time, the new, fairly hi-tech and definitely high-winding small block.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...ion-64097.html

Interesting bit of information.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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An 8k red line would be have hella-high piston speeds in a 5.4 displacement if its based on the coyote engine and its small bore size with MOD motor bore spacing. Even 7k is pretty high when you look at the current 5.4/5.8

Perhaps an entirely new engine that is approaching or passes a 100mm bore? That would get the stroke back down to manageable levels and keep piston speed in check.

Or perhaps Ford is looking into more exotic materials for the reciprocating assembly? A Flat crank and titanium rods along with lightened pistons (since the car is NA and not FI) might offer the lightweight strength needed to meet durability requirements in an engine that essentially moves at Formula One piston speeds.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by montreal ponies
Could look like this according to this month's Road&Track.

Thats the first render I've seen that I actually like with some detail changes

Originally Posted by hellogreg
Actually, this is the one that stands out to me the most. Catfish mouth aside, I like this most because it's crisp. You can put it right next to a new 4 series BMW and I'll take the Mustang.

However, all the other renders (orange) are too tame, all you could do is put them next to a Hyundai Genesis coupe and I would take the Hyundai.
IMO it looks too much like the current car or even the 2005-2009 gen Mustangs.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GT98
Thats the first render I've seen that I actually like with some detail changes



IMO it looks too much like the current car or even the 2005-2009 gen Mustangs.
Especially with the greenhouse !
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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seems unlikely imo
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Reminds me a lot of the gigi mustang concept.


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Old Aug 1, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by hellogreg
Actually, this is the one that stands out to me the most. Catfish mouth aside, I like this most because it's crisp. You can put it right next to a new 4 series BMW and I'll take the Mustang.

However, all the other renders (orange) are too tame, all you could do is put them next to a Hyundai Genesis coupe and I would take the Hyundai.
That looks like nothing more than a modest redesign of this year's Mustang. I doubt seriously it will look much like that at all.
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 12:31 AM
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450 HP

Do you believe the articles 450 HP? A Boss engine maybe? Is there 30 HP in the 5.0 engine? Could they have gone to direct injection?
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rick0202
Do you believe the articles 450 HP? A Boss engine maybe? Is there 30 HP in the 5.0 engine? Could they have gone to direct injection?
450 seems a little high, and Ford won't be going DI just yet. I'd expect another jump like we had from the '11 412 to the '12 420.......so somewhere in the region of 430 or so.

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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
450 seems a little high, and Ford won't be going DI just yet. I'd expect another jump like we had from the '11 412 to the '12 420.......so somewhere in the region of 430 or so.

The Boss 302 runs 444, so you can bet they can get another 6hp out of it.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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6 HP

Road and Track is saying a flat plane crankshaft??? Is that worth 6 HP?
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rick0202
Road and Track is saying a flat plane crankshaft??? Is that worth 6 HP?
I really doubt this is the case but I'll quote myself on this one.
Not all horsepower is created equally.
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 08:27 AM
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Actually R&T said, that the flat-plane crank will be on the 2016 GT350.
In 5.4L form, pumping out 600HP.

How true this is...time will tell.

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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by V6 Driver
"Similar" to the Fusion, perhaps, depending on how one defines "similar." Certainly not derived from the Fusion, component-wise, except perhaps for the most minor of elements.

Didn't the S197 front suspension share some design/component elements with the Focus?
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rick0202
Do you believe the articles 450 HP? A Boss engine maybe? Is there 30 HP in the 5.0 engine? Could they have gone to direct injection?
While 450hp would be a nice healthy number for an na 5.0, it's nowhere near bleeding edge at only about 90hp/l. Heck, my 12 year old M3 makes about 104hp/l., the old Honda S2000 made about 120hp/l. and the Ferrari 458 wails out about 125hp/l.

So yes, there's still plenty of headroom left in the 5.0's power output.
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