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Old 9/22/11, 03:31 PM
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Sounds like more BS to me... If that was the case, every 5.0 would make the noise...
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It has nothing to do with timing chains.
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So any tick of any sort that I can hear is not acceptable? On my car I can hear a faint tick, but I dismissed it because i've been told my hearing is too sensitive.
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Originally Posted by Blackbird.
So any tick of any sort that I can hear is not acceptable? On my car I can hear a faint tick, but I dismissed it because i've been told my hearing is too sensitive.
Hello Blackbird,

I recommend you just run it by your dealer to make sure all is good. If you need any further assistance, just send me a PM.

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No engine runs perfectly quiet......see your dealer, compare noises from other like engines on the lot, know YOUR car.....then you know what a new sound is when it happens.

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Old 9/23/11, 12:13 PM
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Mine was 'faint' a few thousand miles ago... Not so much now
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Originally Posted by Kona Blur
Mine was 'faint' a few thousand miles ago... Not so much now
Hi Kona Blur,

I think you should make another appointment with your Ford dealer and let me escalate this for you. If you’d like me to, please PM me with your dealer, mileage, VIN, and contact info so I can forward it to the Customer Service Manager for your area.

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Originally Posted by FordCustomerService
Hi Kona Blur,

I think you should make another appointment with your Ford dealer and let me escalate this for you. If you’d like me to, please PM me with your dealer, mileage, VIN, and contact info so I can forward it to the Customer Service Manager for your area.

Deysha
Thanks deysha! I already spoke with them and they are getting me the additive you mentioned. I'll let you know if that fixes it... Thanks again!
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I didnt have the tick until i changed my oil at 7k. It was there, 2 weeks after that, it went away. If it comes back, ill have the dealer put in the XL17. That way everything is through the dealer. Ronn

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Old 9/27/11, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Kona Blur
Thanks deysha! I already spoke with them and they are getting me the additive you mentioned. I'll let you know if that fixes it... Thanks again!
Awesome! Thank you for the info!

Originally Posted by Ronn
If it comes back, ill have the dealer put in the XL17. That way everything is through the dealer. Ronn
That sounds like a plan, Ronn. Please private message me if it comes back and you need some help.

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Found this on another Forum:

5.0L ENGINE - METALLIC RATTLE OR SCRATCHING TYPE NOISE FROM FRONT OF LEFT HAND CYLINDER HEAD AT IDLE - BUILT ON OR BEFORE 3/31/2011

FORD:
2011 Mustang
2012 Mustang
2011 F-150

ISSUE:
Some 2011 F-150 and 2011-2012 Mustang vehicles (excluding Boss) built on or before 3/31/2011 and equipped with a 5.0L engine may exhibit an intermittent metallic rattle or scratching type noise in the area at the front of the left hand (driver side) cylinder head at idle with the engine at operating temperature.

ACTION:
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.

SERVICE PROCEDURE







NOTE: NOISE IS NOT A TYPICAL UPPER ENGINE TICK OR TAPPING NOISE.
  1. With the vehicle in park, start the engine and operate at idle allowing the engine to warm to normal operating temperature.
  2. Using a mechanic's stethoscope or EngineEAR, evaluate area at front of left hand (driver side) cylinder head for metallic rattle or scratching type noise. Stethoscope or EngineEAR probe should be placed in the areas shown. (Figures 1 and 2)
  3. Is the noise heard in the areas shown? (Figures 1 and 2)


    Figure 1 - Article 11-9-15




    Figure 2 - Article 11-9-15











    (Place stethoscope on cylinder head oil galley.)
    1. Yes - Replace the left hand primary tensioner and the left hand timing chain tensioner arm using the kit part number provided in this article. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-01C, Camshaft-Left Hand , for removal and installation procedure.
    2. No - Do not continue with this article. Perform normal diagnostics. Refer to WSM, Section 303-00.
      NOTE:FAILURE TO REPLACE BOTH THE PRIMARY TENSIONER AND TIMING CHAIN TENSIONER ARM MAY RESULT IN OVERLOADING OF THE TIMING CHAIN AND UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS COULD LEAD TO TIMING CHAIN FAILURE.
PART NUMBER PART NAME
BR3Z-6L266-AA Chain Tensioner Kit
ZC-30 Motorcraft® Silicone Gasket Remover
ZC-31-A Motorcraft® Metal Surface Prep
TA-30 Motorcraft® Silicone Gasket and Sealant
BR3Z-8255-A Thermostat Seal
F1VY-8507-A Water Pump Gasket
BR3Z-6A340-A Crankshaft Bolt
BR3Z-6020-B Front Cover Gasket Left
BR3Z-6020-C Front Cover Gasket Center
BR3Z-6020-D Front Cover Gasket Right
BR3Z-6584-A Left Hand Valve Cover Gasket
BR3Z-6584-D Right Hand Valve Cover Gasket
BR3Z-8620-AA/C Stretchy Belt
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So.... basically i should take my car to the dealer now.
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So is what you quoted below a TSB? Did Ford finally issue a TSB for the infamous engine TICK? What is the TSB # for this? Hopefully this will finally fix it?

Originally Posted by 05-1947
Found this on another Forum:

5.0L ENGINE - METALLIC RATTLE OR SCRATCHING TYPE NOISE FROM FRONT OF LEFT HAND CYLINDER HEAD AT IDLE - BUILT ON OR BEFORE 3/31/2011

FORD:
2011 Mustang
2012 Mustang
2011 F-150

ISSUE:
Some 2011 F-150 and 2011-2012 Mustang vehicles (excluding Boss) built on or before 3/31/2011 and equipped with a 5.0L engine may exhibit an intermittent metallic rattle or scratching type noise in the area at the front of the left hand (driver side) cylinder head at idle with the engine at operating temperature.

ACTION:
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.

SERVICE PROCEDURE








NOTE: NOISE IS NOT A TYPICAL UPPER ENGINE TICK OR TAPPING NOISE.
  1. With the vehicle in park, start the engine and operate at idle allowing the engine to warm to normal operating temperature.
  2. Using a mechanic's stethoscope or EngineEAR, evaluate area at front of left hand (driver side) cylinder head for metallic rattle or scratching type noise. Stethoscope or EngineEAR probe should be placed in the areas shown. (Figures 1 and 2)
  3. Is the noise heard in the areas shown? (Figures 1 and 2)


    Figure 1 - Article 11-9-15




    Figure 2 - Article 11-9-15












    (Place stethoscope on cylinder head oil galley.)
    1. Yes - Replace the left hand primary tensioner and the left hand timing chain tensioner arm using the kit part number provided in this article. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-01C, Camshaft-Left Hand , for removal and installation procedure.
    2. No - Do not continue with this article. Perform normal diagnostics. Refer to WSM, Section 303-00.
      NOTE:FAILURE TO REPLACE BOTH THE PRIMARY TENSIONER AND TIMING CHAIN TENSIONER ARM MAY RESULT IN OVERLOADING OF THE TIMING CHAIN AND UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS COULD LEAD TO TIMING CHAIN FAILURE.
PART NUMBER PART NAME
BR3Z-6L266-AA Chain Tensioner Kit
ZC-30 Motorcraft® Silicone Gasket Remover
ZC-31-A Motorcraft® Metal Surface Prep
TA-30 Motorcraft® Silicone Gasket and Sealant
BR3Z-8255-A Thermostat Seal
F1VY-8507-A Water Pump Gasket
BR3Z-6A340-A Crankshaft Bolt
BR3Z-6020-B Front Cover Gasket Left
BR3Z-6020-C Front Cover Gasket Center
BR3Z-6020-D Front Cover Gasket Right
BR3Z-6584-A Left Hand Valve Cover Gasket
BR3Z-6584-D Right Hand Valve Cover Gasket
BR3Z-8620-AA/C Stretchy Belt
Old 9/27/11, 10:04 PM
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While I'm at it, does this forum have a place or sticky that lists ALL the TSB's that are out for the 2011+ mustangs? Been searching, and it's all piecemeal... little bit here, little bit there. The NHTSA site doesn't even have all the TSB's there... for example, it doesn't even have the cold clutch shifting TSB...
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TSB 11-9-15

Sorry, I thought the number carried over when I copied it. The problem is that most guys are hearing this "Tick" from the rear of the driver's side not front...?

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Looks like I also need to take my 5.0 in to the dealer
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Originally Posted by Blackbird.
So.... basically i should take my car to the dealer now.
Originally Posted by Wyle5Oh
Looks like I also need to take my 5.0 in to the dealer
Most definitely, guys. If you are experiencing any concern with your vehicles, make an appointment with your Ford dealer as soon as possible. Then PM me with your contact info, mileage, dealer, and VIN so I can escalate this to the Customer Service Manager assigned to your area.

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Where can I find this TSB in a PDF format. I've been looking and can't find it. Ford usually issues TSB's in PDF.

My engine does not tick. All I can here is the injectors and that's normal.

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^ more importantly, as I asked earlier, where can I find a list of ALL the TSB's that are out for our cars? It seems to be all piecemealed, some here, some there. Is there a definitive location to find all the mustang TSBs for 2011+ models? Deysha can you assist?

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Originally Posted by FromZto5
^ more importantly, as I asked earlier, where can I find a list of ALL the TSB's that are out for our cars? It seems to be all piecemealed, some here, some there. Is there a definitive location to find all the mustand TSBs for 2011+ models? Deysha can you assist?
I'm unsure if theirs a database like that... That would be a very good idea though. Maybe someone else knows


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