My 2014 lemon of a GT
8/10/13, 12:32 PM
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Yeah the battery thing is random and remains unexplained. Mine is stored during the winter in my garage during sub-zero temps. I can go 6 weeks and it will start fine. 8 weeks seems to be the limit as I had to charge it once. It has active alarm, but I don't lock it in the garage so its not active. Battery is now 5 1/2 yrs old, 22k, still starting fine.
8/10/13, 12:33 PM
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Lemon law is for cars that have major issues. Not a sound you do not like. Major means it stops you from using the car. A machine will make sounds. A large steering system like the mustangs will make sound when you are not moving.
A clunk at low speeds doesn't sound like its stopping you from buying tampons at the market.
A clunk at low speeds doesn't sound like its stopping you from buying tampons at the market.
You hit the nail on the head.
8/10/13, 12:50 PM
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Yeah the battery thing is random and remains unexplained. Mine is stored during the winter in my garage during sub-zero temps. I can go 6 weeks and it will start fine. 8 weeks seems to be the limit as I had to charge it once. It has active alarm, but I don't lock it in the garage so its not active. Battery is now 5 1/2 yrs old, 22k, still starting fine.
As I also do not drive my car in rainy/bad weather conditions, which is why my car is sometimes not in use for up to 10 day periods..
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8/10/13, 12:50 PM
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Ahh be careful guys, a tough guy entered the thread
In other news, I feel bad for you OP. I just bought a 2014 back in May and I have yet to encounter any issues with it. I'd be pissed if I had 1, let alone 3. I understand there are manufacturing errors and such, it'd just be depressing though having an issue so early on.
In other news, I feel bad for you OP. I just bought a 2014 back in May and I have yet to encounter any issues with it. I'd be pissed if I had 1, let alone 3. I understand there are manufacturing errors and such, it'd just be depressing though having an issue so early on.
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8/10/13, 01:04 PM
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Adrian ! You could very well be right about there being a bad batch of batteries but if there are so many bad batches floating around ? Then it's obviously far more than just a fluke, as it appears to be more of a manufacturing/quality issue in which Ford should be correcting right or wrong ?
At any rate, my car is not a daily driver and not driven every day but that should have nothing to with the batteries discharging just from not being driven or ran for only 10 days when not in use..
You can also do a search on this forum and you'll see just how many threads have been posted over the last 8 years about how many S-197 owners have experienced their batteries crap out on them and have gone through the exact same issues as I have..
Then you'll discover for yourself, this is far from just being what you consider as a fluke !
At any rate, my car is not a daily driver and not driven every day but that should have nothing to with the batteries discharging just from not being driven or ran for only 10 days when not in use..
You can also do a search on this forum and you'll see just how many threads have been posted over the last 8 years about how many S-197 owners have experienced their batteries crap out on them and have gone through the exact same issues as I have..
Then you'll discover for yourself, this is far from just being what you consider as a fluke !
Could be, I've seen all the threads about the batteries, I was just posting from personal experience with the ones I've had. Maybe they just use a ****tily manufactured battery to save a few bucks. I've also wondered if the battery they're using is just too small for these cars with all the electronic stuff they have on them these days. I leave my '70 sitting for months and months and it lights right up every time I go to crank it.
8/10/13, 01:35 PM
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I agree. I'd be frustrated too. Yeah, stuff just doesn't come across the same as when you're bull****ting face to face with people. Body language and facial expressions add a lot to a conversation.
Could be, I've seen all the threads about the batteries, I was just posting from personal experience with the ones I've had. Maybe they just use a ****tily manufactured battery to save a few bucks. I've also wondered if the battery they're using is just too small for these cars with all the electronic stuff they have on them these days. I leave my '70 sitting for months and months and it lights right up every time I go to crank it.
Could be, I've seen all the threads about the batteries, I was just posting from personal experience with the ones I've had. Maybe they just use a ****tily manufactured battery to save a few bucks. I've also wondered if the battery they're using is just too small for these cars with all the electronic stuff they have on them these days. I leave my '70 sitting for months and months and it lights right up every time I go to crank it.
I was actually able to leave my previous 93 SVT Cobra sit for months and never had any problems at all..
8/10/13, 02:31 PM
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We have a winner.
As I become better off, financially, the more I am looking at buying ONLY vintage Mustangs for my DD. For the cost of something new, I can get one H*LL of a nice 1968 Fastback, for instance. No depreciation, and I can troubleshoot and fix anything on it myself.
8/10/13, 02:41 PM
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My fiesta had a optima yellow top and it helped the little car out. I had a red top in my vert and it started better every time.
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8/10/13, 06:10 PM
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My cars are my DD as well. I was trying to get you to see that you were over reacting.
my claim.. 57 days in the shop.. 2 rear end,3 fuel pumps, 1 fuel tank, 4 fuel sending units, 1 alternator, 3 wheel bearings, 1 convertible top, 1 window motor, 2 shaker 500 6 disc changers, 1 law firm, 1 meeting with the bbb and 11 months and I got everything handled.
I also was left on the road twice in 110 degree phoenix summer heat for 3 plus hours each time. I also drove from flagstaff to phoenix to get the work done for 90% of the repairs. I think I made 17 trips to the valley which are 130 miles each way.
my claim.. 57 days in the shop.. 2 rear end,3 fuel pumps, 1 fuel tank, 4 fuel sending units, 1 alternator, 3 wheel bearings, 1 convertible top, 1 window motor, 2 shaker 500 6 disc changers, 1 law firm, 1 meeting with the bbb and 11 months and I got everything handled.
I also was left on the road twice in 110 degree phoenix summer heat for 3 plus hours each time. I also drove from flagstaff to phoenix to get the work done for 90% of the repairs. I think I made 17 trips to the valley which are 130 miles each way.
8/10/13, 06:43 PM
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Yeah the battery thing is random and remains unexplained. Mine is stored during the winter in my garage during sub-zero temps. I can go 6 weeks and it will start fine. 8 weeks seems to be the limit as I had to charge it once. It has active alarm, but I don't lock it in the garage so its not active. Battery is now 5 1/2 yrs old, 22k, still starting fine.
I'd say it doesn't have much longer . . . but I said that 4 years ago as well!
8/10/13, 08:57 PM
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Your battery may not have much longer, but for an OEM battery that's over 9 years old I'd say it's had a very long life expectancy and has served you well
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8/10/13, 10:34 PM
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So back to topic Wilson, what is the exact problem with your steering? Just the clunk sound in the vid or is there something else going on? Have you gotten under it and listened and felt of different components while someone turned the wheel to see where its coming from?
8/10/13, 10:54 PM
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Isn't there a little cam or some device that interacts with the turn signal to cancel it when the steering wheel is turned, I would look there based on the tic in the vid?
New batteries are a bit of a gamble. I had two different motorcycles that needed batteries. Bought a reputable brand and it took two to three "new" batteries to finally have one that did not fail in less than 2 weeks. Quality control in some of the places of battery manufacture could use some stepping up.
New batteries are a bit of a gamble. I had two different motorcycles that needed batteries. Bought a reputable brand and it took two to three "new" batteries to finally have one that did not fail in less than 2 weeks. Quality control in some of the places of battery manufacture could use some stepping up.
8/10/13, 11:03 PM
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Isn't there a little cam or some device that interacts with the turn signal to cancel it when the steering wheel is turned, I would look there based on the tic in the vid?
New batteries are a bit of a gamble. I had two different motorcycles that needed batteries. Bought a reputable brand and it took two to three "new" batteries to finally have one that did not fail in less than 2 weeks. Quality control in some of the places of battery manufacture could use some stepping up.
New batteries are a bit of a gamble. I had two different motorcycles that needed batteries. Bought a reputable brand and it took two to three "new" batteries to finally have one that did not fail in less than 2 weeks. Quality control in some of the places of battery manufacture could use some stepping up.
8/10/13, 11:15 PM
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And I don't ever want to find out either Dan
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8/11/13, 01:35 AM
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So back to topic Wilson, what is the exact problem with your steering? Just the clunk sound in the vid or is there something else going on? Have you gotten under it and listened and felt of different components while someone turned the wheel to see where its coming from?
No. I haven't gotten under it myself. I've thought about it. Maybe bring it to my buddy's shop to diagnose it. However, I find that the dealer wouldn't take your word for it anyway. It's almost as if unless they hear it or see it themselves it didn't happen.
I do have to admit that I'm not very useful as far as car mechanics go
. I'd like to learn and I've been soaking up so much ever since I got into Mustangs and cars of all sorts. People tell me they can hear it from outside when pulling out of the driveway and such. I've also noticed that on occasion it makes a faint sound when going over speed bumps.
Edit: I should also note that the steering makes a faint gurgle sound when I turn the wheel and hold it, even though it's electric. It seems that the pop sometimes comes from when I release the wheel rather than when I turn into it.
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8/11/13, 01:46 AM
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RBB, when I make slight turns at low speeds, say 10mph or slower, is when it really acts up. For example, when I turn in and out of various parking spots it clunks/pops. I can also feel a popping sensation through the wheel. Secondly, on occasion when I cut the wheel all the way the wheel/rack clanks. This doesn't happen every time but I'd say 6/10 times. When I it clunks I can feel it through the floor boards which almost has me convinced it's underneath rather than in the column.
No. I haven't gotten under it myself. I've thought about it. Maybe bring it to my buddy's shop to diagnose it. However, I find that the dealer wouldn't take your word for it anyway. It's almost as if unless they hear it or see it themselves it didn't happen.
I do have to admit that I'm not very useful as far as car mechanics go. I'd like to learn and I've been soaking up so much ever since I got into Mustangs and cars of all sorts.
People tell me they can hear it from outside when pulling out of the driveway and such. I've also noticed that on occasion it makes a faint sound when going over speed bumps.
No. I haven't gotten under it myself. I've thought about it. Maybe bring it to my buddy's shop to diagnose it. However, I find that the dealer wouldn't take your word for it anyway. It's almost as if unless they hear it or see it themselves it didn't happen.
I do have to admit that I'm not very useful as far as car mechanics go
. I'd like to learn and I've been soaking up so much ever since I got into Mustangs and cars of all sorts. People tell me they can hear it from outside when pulling out of the driveway and such. I've also noticed that on occasion it makes a faint sound when going over speed bumps.
8/11/13, 08:40 AM
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RBB, when I make slight turns at low speeds, say 10mph or slower, is when it really acts up. For example, when I turn in and out of various parking spots it clunks/pops. I can also feel a popping sensation through the wheel. Secondly, on occasion when I cut the wheel all the way the wheel/rack clanks. This doesn't happen every time but I'd say 6/10 times. When it clunks I can feel it through the floor boards which almost has me convinced it's underneath rather than in the column.
No. I haven't gotten under it myself. I've thought about it. Maybe bring it to my buddy's shop to diagnose it. However, I find that the dealer wouldn't take your word for it anyway. It's almost as if unless they hear it or see it themselves it didn't happen.
I do have to admit that I'm not very useful as far as car mechanics go
. I'd like to learn and I've been soaking up so much ever since I got into Mustangs and cars of all sorts.People tell me they can hear it from outside when pulling out of the driveway and such. I've also noticed that on occasion it makes a faint sound when going over speed bumps.
Edit: I should also note that the steering makes a faint gurgle sound when I turn the wheel and hold it, even though it's electric. It seems that the pop sometimes comes from when I release the wheel rather than when I turn into it.
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8/11/13, 07:46 PM
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I totally agree with you, as it took 3 batteries and so far my third hasn't failed within 10 days yet, but then again I have it on the battery tender if it's beyond the 10 day period.. So I don't know what would happen after two weeks without using the battery tender..