Adding the OEM nav
#243
Wish me luck guys I have started on Nav and Dual climate control conversion with no backup camera. I have the the GT/CS spoiler. I love it to much . Last night I got the middle console and center console out. Not much but it's a start though. Tonight will be radio and sync display I will be taking pictures of my odyssey.
Last edited by defiance772; 2/18/14 at 10:56 AM.
#244
I just got the NAV unit...for my 2010GT premium. Now I was looking in the trunk, and I already have an amp on the passenger side. Does that mean I could skip the amp wiring? Or should I try and see if I hear sound? It's a Shaker 500 currently. I am not going with the dual climate control, but got the camera with the spoiler, too. However I will keep my GT500 spoiler and mount the camera above the license plate in my 2013 panel.
Now I need to get all the other parts from white bear lake ford
I will keep you guys posted on the progress. Just need parts now.
LEXiiON
Now I need to get all the other parts from white bear lake ford
I will keep you guys posted on the progress. Just need parts now.
LEXiiON
#245
Mach 1 Member
Maybe. I am not sure.
When I look at the cabling diagrams for the 2010 then I should not have the amplifier. It may be the Sirius module.
LEXiiON
When I look at the cabling diagrams for the 2010 then I should not have the amplifier. It may be the Sirius module.
LEXiiON
Last edited by LEXiiON; 2/18/14 at 11:27 AM.
#247
Mach 1 Member
#250
Mach 1 Member
-Matt
#252
Hi All
The main wiring harness (14A005) is not needed to get the navigation to work. You only have to change the 14401 under dash wiring harness and if you want to get the dual zone HVAC system to work you have to replace the Evaporator housing wiring harness.
As Jim suggested in his earlier posting the nav system (ACM) does not have sufficient internal room for an amplifier, (especially the cooling necessary for the amp) so the amp is external. The OEM amp is located in the right rear fender well in the trunk. Without the amp being wired to the ACM there is insufficient audio within the car. Jim's excellent solution is to obtain the necessary wiring harness pigtails for the amp to ACM and using aftermarket wire to make his own wiring harness. He also suggested to go to a car audio store and have them make the necessary wiring changes to get the sound going.
The reason that I changed the main body wiring harness (14A005) was three fold.
To have an OEM wiring connection for the audio amp in the trunk
To have an OEM wiring connection for the back up camera in the rear spoiler
To have an OEM wiring connection for the Shaker 1000 Sub woofer system in the trunk.
I would only recommend the arduous process of replacing the 14A005 for those that wished to replace any two of the above systems.
Best of luck and let us know how the replacement is going.
If you need any more assistance in getting the dual zone HVAC system working let me know.
Regards
Rob
The main wiring harness (14A005) is not needed to get the navigation to work. You only have to change the 14401 under dash wiring harness and if you want to get the dual zone HVAC system to work you have to replace the Evaporator housing wiring harness.
As Jim suggested in his earlier posting the nav system (ACM) does not have sufficient internal room for an amplifier, (especially the cooling necessary for the amp) so the amp is external. The OEM amp is located in the right rear fender well in the trunk. Without the amp being wired to the ACM there is insufficient audio within the car. Jim's excellent solution is to obtain the necessary wiring harness pigtails for the amp to ACM and using aftermarket wire to make his own wiring harness. He also suggested to go to a car audio store and have them make the necessary wiring changes to get the sound going.
The reason that I changed the main body wiring harness (14A005) was three fold.
To have an OEM wiring connection for the audio amp in the trunk
To have an OEM wiring connection for the back up camera in the rear spoiler
To have an OEM wiring connection for the Shaker 1000 Sub woofer system in the trunk.
I would only recommend the arduous process of replacing the 14A005 for those that wished to replace any two of the above systems.
Best of luck and let us know how the replacement is going.
If you need any more assistance in getting the dual zone HVAC system working let me know.
Regards
Rob
#253
Thanks Muskoka. Hopefully I wont need to wire the Amp in. Jim said there some 2013 or 2014 owners who had sound already installed so they didn't need it. There might be another location for the Amp in the 2013 & 2014 mustangs.
#254
Legacy TMS Member
Thread Starter
I am going by Yellow302 who stated that he did not need to get an amp, and all he needed was the ACM. I have not confirmed that 2013/14 don't need an amp.
#255
Thanks Jim I know. Hopefully thats true. One thing Jim if I don't have an amp and go to a radio to have them do it. What do they need to do just get to the nav unit and wire it up from there.
Thanks
Thanks
#256
I started updating my notes here with some of the recent info. I ran into a couple of additional questions:
- Muskoka mentions CR3Z-14A005-KB, which indicates a 2012MY part. I'm guessing it'd be wise to make sure you get the appropriate harness for the MY of your car? Reason I ask, the BR3Z-14A005-KB is nearly $100 more than the CR3Z part! If I can avoid ordering the more expensive parts, I will.
- Has anyone found the part numbers for and/or priced out adding the Shaker 1000 sub into the system? I'm curious, and may add it depending on price.
- Any additional risks when changing the evaporator housing to accommodate the DEATC components? Other than swapping them from the old single zone, do we need to be cautious of anything else?
Jim, you mentioned adding the heated mirrors with pony projectors, have you bothered to look into wiring these on pre-2013MY car?
- Muskoka mentions CR3Z-14A005-KB, which indicates a 2012MY part. I'm guessing it'd be wise to make sure you get the appropriate harness for the MY of your car? Reason I ask, the BR3Z-14A005-KB is nearly $100 more than the CR3Z part! If I can avoid ordering the more expensive parts, I will.
- Has anyone found the part numbers for and/or priced out adding the Shaker 1000 sub into the system? I'm curious, and may add it depending on price.
- Any additional risks when changing the evaporator housing to accommodate the DEATC components? Other than swapping them from the old single zone, do we need to be cautious of anything else?
Jim, you mentioned adding the heated mirrors with pony projectors, have you bothered to look into wiring these on pre-2013MY car?
#258
Hey guys. I'm stuck at taking the airbags out how do remove. I dont want brake the clips. Also the steering wheel how do I deal with that. Also with the top part of the dash does that just come out where are the bolts for that. The ford manual service manual doesn't specify that.
#259
Mach 1 Member
Hey guys. I'm stuck at taking the airbags out how do remove. I dont want brake the clips. Also the steering wheel how do I deal with that. Also with the top part of the dash does that just come out where are the bolts for that. The ford manual service manual doesn't specify that.
Are you referring to both air bags? the steering wheel has two connectors, they have a squeeze style connector.
The top part of the dash does not come off. It comes out as an entire piece.
Are u doing it in the street????
-Matt
#260
Lol I'm not the street. I'm in a garage. Ok so dash is a whole piece now I know why this is a 2 man job. Also how do you remove the airbag interior plate without braking it. The plate that says gt/cs where the airbag is held.