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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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Where do you guys advise buying and how does the warranty work? Also how will it work in conjunction with my c&l intake, I'm sure ill have to leave my spacer in.
Ford Racing Parts have a 3 page PDF Warranty guide: http://www.fordracingparts.com/annou...2012_Packs.pdf

It may or may not work with your aftermarket intake, I would check with Ford Racing to be sure.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Just to give u guys an update I had pinging and did a cam relearn and that was the end of that
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Gogoggansgo
Just to give u guys an update I had pinging and did a cam relearn and that was the end of that
Great Info!
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 11:39 AM
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Anyone have the cam relearn procedure? I'd like to have a copy in case I ever have issues.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 01:46 PM
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I know it but it worked lol and I do it every now and again just to keep it up to snuff but you do have to do an idle relearn
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 06:02 PM
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Had the tune installed by the dealer at 6 miles. 32,000 later on nothing but 93 octane, no ping, no knock. The cost of this tune is way more than those prices listed above. .10 to .20 cent a gallon for 93 octane plus the two sets of Pirellis. Hell, we didn't buy'm cause we were concerned with dollars and cents. This tune rocks with Roush axle backs.
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 11:20 AM
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Anybody know if it will void my 5 year warranty if I have a dealer install it?

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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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Anybody know if it will void my 5 year warranty if I have a dealer install it?

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Ford Racing Parts have a 3 page PDF Warranty guide: http://www.fordracingparts.com/annou...2012_Packs.pdf

The Ford Racing Warranty is much shorter then Ford's Factory Warranty that it replaces.
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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Shorter? Not really...isn't the standard factory warranty 3yr/36,000 with an available extension to 5yr/100,000? Racing's warranty seems pretty clear however it doesn't mention if or how it affects extended warranties?

Performance Packs and Components
are warranted for factory-supplied material or workmanship, when installed on a late model Ford vehicles by an authorized Ford or Lincoln Dealer or Shelby Automotive, Inc, beginning upon dealer installation and registration of the part(s) with Ford Racing for the balance of 3 years or 36,000 miles / 60,000 kilometres, whichever occurs first, from the start date of the manufacturer's New Vehicle Limited Warranty. This Limited Warranty replaces the existing manufacturer's New Vehicle Limited Warranty for engine, driveline and suspension parts when a concern is triggered by a warranted Ford Racing part. This Limited Warranty replaces the existing manufacturer's New Vehicle Limited Warranty for engine, driveline and suspension parts, when the warranted Ford Racing Part is identified as the causal part of a warrantable concern.
Installation of these select Ford Racing parts by an authorized dealer does not nullify the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. All engine, driveline and suspension warranty issues not related to installation of Ford Racing parts remain subject to existing manufacturer's New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Horspla
Shorter? Not really...isn't the standard factory warranty 3yr/36,000 with an available extension to 5yr/100,000? Racing's warranty seems pretty clear however it doesn't mention if or how it affects extended warranties?

Performance Packs and Components
are warranted for factory-supplied material or workmanship, when installed on a late model Ford vehicles by an authorized Ford or Lincoln Dealer or Shelby Automotive, Inc, beginning upon dealer installation and registration of the part(s) with Ford Racing for the balance of 3 years or 36,000 miles / 60,000 kilometres, whichever occurs first, from the start date of the manufacturer's New Vehicle Limited Warranty. This Limited Warranty replaces the existing manufacturer's New Vehicle Limited Warranty for engine, driveline and suspension parts when a concern is triggered by a warranted Ford Racing part. This Limited Warranty replaces the existing manufacturer's New Vehicle Limited Warranty for engine, driveline and suspension parts, when the warranted Ford Racing Part is identified as the causal part of a warrantable concern.

Installation of these select Ford Racing parts by an authorized dealer does not nullify the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. All engine, driveline and suspension warranty issues not related to installation of Ford Racing parts remain subject to existing manufacturer's New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
I think he's talking about the 5yr/60k mile powertrain warranty that comes with the car. Scott
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:37 AM
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I think he's talking about the 5yr/60k mile powertrain warranty that comes with the car. Scott
Well, we're both sort of right! I though the ESP plan went to 100k miles. My bad. It times out at 60k miles like the normal warranty. The difference is it's coverage is bumper to bumper to 60k miles...unlike the standard warranty. I think it was a waste of money now but the saving grace is, I get a full refund of the purchase price if I don't use it.

John
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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So basically, just ask around dealer to dealer until one says they'll do it then your golden?
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 02:34 PM
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So basically, just ask around dealer to dealer until one says they'll do it then your golden?
Doubt if it's that simple since FoMoCo holds the final approval of warranty coverage. A dealer can say anything to make a sale knowing full well Ford will decline warranty coverage. The agreement has to be at the corporate -manufactures- level otherwise you're at risk of being hung out. In this case Ford Racing offers a warranty but it's quite a bit shorter than the factory 5 year warranty and would not be bumper to bumper like the add on ESP package...which I was a fool to buy~

John
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Anyone have the cam relearn procedure? I'd like to have a copy in case I ever have issues.
i'd like to hear about this my self
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Horspla

Doubt if it's that simple since FoMoCo holds the final approval of warranty coverage. A dealer can say anything to make a sale knowing full well Ford will decline warranty coverage. The agreement has to be at the corporate -manufactures- level otherwise you're at risk of being hung out. In this case Ford Racing offers a warranty but it's quite a bit shorter than the factory 5 year warranty and would not be bumper to bumper like the add on ESP package...which I was a fool to buy~

John
So take me through the safe process from order to installation. If its too fishy you may as well just go with a full fledged steeda tune.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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So take me through the safe process from order to installation. If its too fishy you may as well just go with a full fledged steeda tune.
As an option, yes, you could go with any tune and give up your warranty. If the warranty is not important to you, I think there is more power to be had going that way. If you want more power verses stock and want to retain "a" warranty, the ProCal seems to be the only option. From what I can see however, you give up the FoMoCo warranty for the shorter Ford Racing warranty with the ProCal. Again, if giving up 2 years worth of warranty you paid for...and may need, isn't important to you, ProCal all the way. In my opinion the best way to find out if FoMoCo will retain the 5 year warranty, with or without the ESP kicker added when a ProCal tune installed, is to talk directly to them, not a dealer. Dealers sell and repair cars. Manufactures build cars and warranty their work and components.

Just my take, flawed or not.
John
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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A failure from a tune, particularly our tunes is extremely rare. The tunes we send out are the same tunes used in our Steeda serialized vehicles sold through Ford dealers. Vehicles that are backed by a warranty, hence need to have a tune that is not going to cause us warranty issues.

Should an engine failure occur, we would work with the Ford dealer for proper diagnostics, this would include not only traditional diagnostics but things such as fuel octane testing and other techniques to fully determine the cause of failure. Should it be determined that indeed the tuning was the cause of the engine failure and not abuse, over revving, improper fuel octane, etc, then we would work with the customer on resolving the failure.

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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 02:31 PM
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TJ@Steeda,

Since you are likely to have more knowledge in this area than most of us posting here, can you walk us through a scenario where a failure is caused by a tune (which- for all the discussion around it- sounds to be actually really rare if I'm not mistaken)?

I mean, understanding the established tunes rarely do cause problems, if there is a problem, what form is it likely to take and what will cause the manufacturer to wash their hands of the problem?

Thanks!
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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The ford delership is honoring my extended warranty with there tune but I really want to ghost cam it now
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 10:22 PM
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the only issue I have had with frpp tune is that it has had a little throttle surge when i was decelerating right after start up. but to be honest if thats the worst that happens to me ill be happy lol the ghost cam guys have the same issue 10 fold
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