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In my case, the car is registered in a county that doesn't require emissions testing. So I'm good for now... My concern is future changes to the local law.
Would headers be legal with factory cats? It probably wouldn't do any good to have the headers though...
Would headers be legal with factory cats? It probably wouldn't do any good to have the headers though...
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I have, and I'd love one, but the problem is getting it installed locally. There is a very reputable Mustang shop locally and he installs nearly everything but the D.O.B. kit and doesn't want to make the jump. He's also a ProCharger, VMP, Roush dealer and has done several hundred of these installs.
I haven't made my final decision, it just that I'm loving the programability of the Procharger. If I get said shop to do the install, it'll be either the Procharger or the VMP stage 2.
I haven't made my final decision, it just that I'm loving the programability of the Procharger. If I get said shop to do the install, it'll be either the Procharger or the VMP stage 2.
But either way you really can't go wrong with the Roush, VMP and ProCharger kits, as their all excellent choices as well
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Otherwise you would just re-install your factory catted mid-pipe each year prior to emissions inspection..
However if your looking into long tube headers, I would recommend upgrading to high-flow cats, as you wouldn't be able to re-use your factory mid-pipe with long tubes anyhow..
The guy that's going to do the header/SC/Tune assures me that it will pass emissions testing (going with the catted H as mentioned). He said the rear O2's will be active and working, and it will pass both OBD2 and sniff testing when done. Given his local following / reputation, I have no reason to doubt him.
That's the claim and actually the promise, so it's encouraging to say the least. Now I'll just need the proof. He said he doesn't ever use the packaged tunes, and that's one of the reasons. It's apparently very time consuming to work this voodoo so it'll be expensive, but discounted when you buy the whole package from him. His prices are competitive with most everyone's.
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However when it comes to dealerships, most of them are by the book and will fail your car through the visual inspection, if they notice the stock mid-pipe has been changed..
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That's the claim and actually the promise, so it's encouraging to say the least. Now I'll just need the proof. He said he doesn't ever use the packaged tunes, and that's one of the reasons. It's apparently very time consuming to work this voodoo so it'll be expensive, but discounted when you buy the whole package from him. His prices are competitive with most everyone's.
Therefore IMHO.. It think it's pretty safe to assume that your tuner will honor his commitment by keeping his word and promises to you
He spent many years working for Ford. He said that if I have any backwash warranty or inspection wise, he can take care of it with a quick phone call. Several of the local dealers send work his way when they can't handle it. I went as far as calling the mentioned dealerships to check his references and he didn't mind or get offended. He said he respected the due diligence and hopes I'll join the bandwagon that endorses his business.
That's the claim and actually the promise, so it's encouraging to say the least. Now I'll just need the proof. He said he doesn't ever use the packaged tunes, and that's one of the reasons. It's apparently very time consuming to work this voodoo so it'll be expensive, but discounted when you buy the whole package from him. His prices are competitive with most everyone's.
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He spent many years working for Ford. He said that if I have any backwash warranty or inspection wise, he can take care of it with a quick phone call. Several of the local dealers send work his way when they can't handle it. I went as far as calling the mentioned dealerships to check his references and he didn't mind or get offended. He said he respected the due diligence and hopes I'll join the bandwagon that endorses his business.
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