Hi Guys, im from Brazil and own a 2010 gt 4.6L with some mods like intake, tune, 3.73 gears, brembo brakes, h&r springs and 100 shot of nitrous. The car has 315 rwhp and 404 rwhp with nitrous. And im thinking to get a supercharger kit to get some like 500 rwhp. My question is, if i will need some forged inside the engine whit this ??? Thanks in advance.

 

just under 500hp is still safe with the stock internals. welcome to TMS by the way

 

Thanks man, im just worried when i heard about the shelbys that they had forged pistons, this makes me feel worried about 500 rwhp with stock inside. Many guys here has a supercharger with 500 rwhp or more??? With stock inside? Thanks again

 

Really 450 rwhp with 6000 rpm redline is about all you can say is safe. Yes some people get more for a time and some people are just lucky. SC is there all the time no nitrous to fill. So sell the nitrous and SC.

 

Thanks man, you mean sell the nitrous and buy a supercharger?

 

That's what I would do. No sense in having to fill up, arm and purge with NOS when the hp is there all the time by stepping on the gas with a SC.

 

Heard that nos just eats up engines might be wrong though.

 

nos is rougher on the rotating assembly than than a supercharger is. Also from what I have seen there are plenty of people driving around with 475 to 500 SC hp all day long and lasting with out problems

 

Well how much worse is nos? A guy from a shop said it'll just destroy the engine with enough goes from the nitrous and something about having to decompress your engine before using it.

 

Nothing wrong with N2O. It's really just concentrated oxygen. Enough fuel and tuning will allow N2O be be just as safe as forced induction. The main problems with N2O is not enough fuel or too much nitrous causing a lean condition. Tires breaking loose and over revving usually takes out other engines.

 

More than just concentrated oxygen. That's like saying H2O is concentrated oxygen. I'm assuming you don't know a lot about chemistry. Concentrated oxygen is just compressed oxygen. N2O is two nitrate atoms and one oxygen atom. These three molecules make up an entirely new compound. For instance N2O is not oxygen it is nitrous oxide not oxygen. Not refuting anything you said of its effects in a engine but it is in no way shape or form oxygen since the molecules are bonded together. It's only oxygen if it's alone otherwise your making a new compound or substance. On the risk of beating a dead horse here's what I'm saying. Hydrogen alone is hydrogen, but when're I hydrogen molecules are bonded with one oxygen atom it is water or H2O and has completely different properties. Feel free to research and peer review what I wrote.

 

 

I understand what it is. I work in a chemical plant. We make and use all types of these chemicals. Was trying to simplify it as easily as possible. That being said its an oxidizer and is a nonflammable gas by itself. Mixed with fuel and it damm near burns by itself. It's also fantastic when inhaled. The race grade tastes like sulfur but still does a great job. Any other chemistry lessons?

 

Knew that already just didnt like it being called concentrated oxygen when chemically it's not oxygen at all. Though I wonder what it's exact chemical composition is when mixed with gas. Also it if it forms bonds with any chemicals in the gas to produce the affects it has on the engine. Though I assume it forms some kind of bond. As explosions are really chemical reactions happening really fast. Good example of this is the atomic bomb. I wish to learn more about this!

 

Terrorist plans in the future?
We just recently had an incident with powdered chlorine(also an oxidizer) and small amount of glycol in a bucket. Caught fire all by itself and could not be extinguished. Oxidizers are serious when mixed the wrong way. Impressive though.

 

I talked to the Ford Racing reps directly when I was researching what blower I was going to get and they said the stock internals will handle 660hp (at the flywheel) at red line before throwing rods/bad things happening. 500rwhp is a safe number at red line but I wouldn't go any higher on the stock internals.

 

Lol no just want to know out of fascination. Also that sounds like a sight to see! One time I took sweet and spicy chillie chips and threw them in a fire. They caught on quick and had a brighter greenish tint to it. Most notable was the fact it burned hotter. Not supper hot but noticeable more. I wonder what goes into these chips. >_>

 

You need to do that while inhaling N2O.

 

Thank you Guy this kill my doubt

 

Just curious... but don't the Roush and Saleen still use stock internals? I would think boosting 450-500hp would be relatively safe... Definitely need a good person to tune though!